Right. So, it is the fault of the US and the West, right? Yeah, those damned troublesome gubbmints made these animals kill woman and children.... bull****

There's a difference between excusing individual violence and explaining policies that lead to a propensity to violence. There's nothing wrong with doing the latter and NOT embarking on such policies in future.

It matters NOT. Whether it is action or RE action, it is NOT justified. PERIOD! If they want to make a political or religious statement and try to move their agenda forward, there are MANY peaceful means to do so without MURDERing innocent people.

Yeah! Just be nice.

Ask yourself why the U.S. government is so interested in Africa.


I suspect it is because Africa is resource rich/has oil, and the African government is working more closely with China than it is with the U.S.

Think deeper Jake.

The typical kneejerk reply 'Anyone who thinks our government is responsible is un-patriotic/un-American' just don't cut the mustard anymore.

As well as styfling any intelligent debate on the subject.

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Sometimes you need to swallow your fawking ego and back off.

Well, lets hope those radicals don't get their hands on some drones/white phosphourus/depleted uranium to dump on a place like Iraq.

You see Larry, the U.S. has not exactly been so peacefull in the last 90 years or so..and they have certainly murdered more innocent people than the radicals have.

Both on foreign soils, as well as on American soil.

Clean up your own backyard before you go trying to clean up someone elses.

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Does the eradication include every American or Western official, agency, agent or soldier that has perpetrated, supports, sponsors or has engaged in torture, mayhem and murder? El Salvador 1980.

If they had the interweb, do you suppose there would be a thread on one of their forums stating that "We MUST eradicate these animals" after a western lead coalition invaded their country and toppled their government?

Although you and I may claim to see peaceful resolutions, I would imagine (puts on prognosticator hat) that the 'radicals' do not. They have probably seen many failures of peaceful methods.
And, as we are all born human, for a member(s) of our species to kill with such depravity says to me that the person(s) have been exposed to such acts previous to committing their own.
I cannot fathom that people would behave in such a way had there not been such atrocities committed against them and their loved ones.

Many religious books have the basic idea of 'an eye for an eye' built into them.

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Unless we have an interest, let them grind each other up for dog meat for all I care. Especially when we can sell grinders.

Don't GAS.

Ah, But Sir. Are you sure we are being real "world policemen"? People always say that but do you believe we are? Why aren't we in places that are suffering if the DON'T have strategic interests? Or are we acting as "world policemen" when it suits us? IOW, I go lynch you because you are a thief (and your son beat up my son) but tomorrow, two kids are lying in the street and I don't GAS?

What makes you think that we aren't? Just because someone goes in with some high faluting idea doesn't mean that is the real reason. Think of companies that advertise "I care about you". Do you really believe they do? I don't. I wish they would admit they want my money and be done with it. I am sick of politicians telling me what they think I want to hear. I want to ugly truth. I'd have a lot more respect if they said "It is in our interest to go in because of X, Y and Z" as opposed to "We want to liberate the people and free them from the tyrant.".

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But safest when all superstition is eradicated. Unfortunately, because of the weak minded nature of mankind, it probably will never happen.

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The US government is not remotely interested in Africa. The Chinese are way ahead in that regard.

- Peter.

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And the Chinese are being smart about it; doing business while we provoke wars.

Kenya to host first yuan clearing house in Africa | praag.org


Anyone think the U.S. is not taking serious notice of this, and is in Africa for purely 'Humanitarian ' reasons can keep on dreaming.

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