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Old 10-04-2013, 07:32 PM
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Why not have everybody get on Obamacare including Congress and union members?
I have no objection.

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Old 10-04-2013, 07:33 PM
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Why not have everybody get on Obamacare including Congress and union members?
Scratching the "1,100 EXEMPTIONS" from the illegal Law is IN there. RE: negotiation from Boehner to "His Highness" to agree to.......
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Old 10-04-2013, 07:38 PM
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Stop with the inflammatory insults...

This is epidemic, regardless of party...

None of them want to ever stop writing checks the US citizen MUST pay.

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Which was the insulting part?
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:54 PM
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Please stop trying to put words in my mouth.

The website you quote is zero value, outside of fear mongering.

I have lived through all of these shutdowns:

#1. A few people are briefly inconvenienced.

#2. Both parties have their tantrum.

#3. Both parties come to an agreement and claim victory.

#4. Both parties continue spending like drunken sailors.

I could continue, but it is both boring and depressing...

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You have insulted drunken sailors everywhere.
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Old 10-04-2013, 10:57 PM
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How long will this shut down need to continue to clear your countries national debt?
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:26 PM
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How long will this shut down need to continue to clear your countries national debt?
IIRC, it SAVES WE THE PEOPLE one billion dollars a week, and.......since the overdrawn debt of the Government here is $17 Trillion dollars, it should be cleaned-up in a few decades.

What you are witnessing, layback40, is a bloated, American Government, with a Country running perfectly fine WITHOUT THEM, with happy people, and a very "few" that might want to seek better employment opportunities than with the Government that probably doesn't need their services any longer.

WE THE PEOPLE ARE AMERICA!
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:31 PM
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Which was the insulting part?
I shall try to explain:
"calling your favorite Tea Party knuckle-dragging Congressman"

* Intimating a personal association with a party.
* Using an offensive negative connotation of the party.
* Impugning Congressmen based solely upon party.

Perhaps this was humor ???
To me it looks more like Painting with the broad SLANDER brush.

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Old 10-04-2013, 11:38 PM
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Hmmm... why is it that a liberals number one solution to all the US problems is to legalize their drugs?
Roy,

Would you say that this post has certain negative qualities about it?
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:57 PM
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All I can see, that if this lasts, is that it's going to hurt a lot of people who used to go to work every day.
I totally disagree, Jake. Many of them might want to find more secure employment. 'We The People' are tired of the waste in America.

The average Government employee in America is pulling down OVER $100K A YEAR, ($125K to be more exact) after ALL the benefits AND PENSIONS are included. That's insanity for us to pay, IMHO! The average income of a Government employee is: $60,000.000 a year!

Here is an example I know of personally:
I know a worthless POS (I used to be friends with) that now smokes dope and snorts cocaine. I grew-up with him, but ended our friendship two years ago because of his low-life lifestyle that I personally find repulsive. He now draws $48K a year, WITH $50 out-of-pocket a month HEALTH INSURANCE FOR LIFE, AFTER 22 YEARS AS A BEAT COP IN OMAHA.

HE OWNS (2) 1/4 OF A MILLION DOLLAR HOMES - ONE IN OMAHA, AND THE OTHER IN SURPRISE. AZ. HE IS NOW A DOPER ON THE BLOAT OF TAXES ON OUR BACKS!

ENOUGH!!!!!!!

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Old 10-05-2013, 12:13 AM
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I shall try to explain:
"calling your favorite Tea Party knuckle-dragging Congressman"

* Intimating a personal association with a party.
* Using an offensive negative connotation of the party.
* Impugning Congressmen based solely upon party.

Perhaps this was humor ???
To me it looks more like Painting with the broad SLANDER brush.

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Since you have a question about my post, let's dissect this:

* Intimating a personal association with a recognized U.S. political party is not an act of libel, particularly if there is no reason to believe the intimation is false.

* If seeing the presentation of an offensive negative connotation of a political party in this forum troubles you, please accept my apologies. Just as an FYI, I've noticed a smattering of posts containing offensive negative connotations regarding political parties just here and there on the board. Just a smattering, however. You may wish to confront the authors of those posts, if you should happen to find those needles in the virtual haystack, and share your concerns with them as well.

* If impugning an elected official on the basis of their party affiliation troubles you, may I respectfully suggest that you place such esteemed forum personae such as Skid Row Joe and Air&Road on ignore? This could save you tremendous emotional wear and tear.

* Perhaps my post was in humor? Perhaps! Humor is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure that a few on here who don't share Larry's political beliefs found it mildly amusing; as I am sure that a few on here who are politically allied with Larry had an unreasonably strong negative reaction.
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Old 10-05-2013, 01:19 AM
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Roy,

Would you say that this post has certain negative qualities about it?
Yes, but there is no personal component..


The following is for everyone:

Knocking an entire party is painting with a broad slander brush, great for enraging people, horrible for useful dialog..

IMO: There are few forum members who might change their political views from any discussion here.

Taking the most extreme stance, slander, insults, etc, ends any chance of other parties considering your points, from anything but an enraged emotional basis.

Imitating politicians spitting at each other is IMO a silly waste of time.

I know many politicians ROFLMAO watching citizens ripping each other, over C R A P they stirred up.

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Old 10-05-2013, 01:32 AM
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I totally disagree, Jake. Many of them might want to find more secure employment. 'We The People' are tired of the waste in America.

The average Government employee in America is pulling down OVER $100K A YEAR, ($125K to be more exact) after ALL the benefits AND PENSIONS are included. That's insanity for us to pay, IMHO! The average income of a Government employee is: $60,000.000 a year!

Here is an example I know of personally:
I know a worthless POS (I used to be friends with) that now smokes dope and snorts cocaine. I grew-up with him, but ended our friendship two years ago because of his low-life lifestyle that I personally find repulsive. He now draws $48K a year, WITH $50 out-of-pocket a month HEALTH INSURANCE FOR LIFE, AFTER 22 YEARS AS A BEAT COP IN OMAHA.

HE OWNS (2) 1/4 OF A MILLION DOLLAR HOMES - ONE IN OMAHA, AND THE OTHER IN SURPRISE. AZ. HE IS NOW A DOPER ON THE BLOAT OF TAXES ON OUR BACKS!

ENOUGH!!!!!!!
Did he do his job as a beat cop? Is he receiving the compensation discussed above as part of a retirement package which he earned as a condition of his employment? Are you seriously losing it over the fact that he receives health insurance?
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:17 AM
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Since you have a question about my post, let's dissect this:

* Intimating a personal association with a recognized U.S. political party is not an act of libel, particularly if there is no reason to believe the intimation is false.

* If seeing the presentation of an offensive negative connotation of a political party in this forum troubles you, please accept my apologies. Just as an FYI, I've noticed a smattering of posts containing offensive negative connotations regarding political parties just here and there on the board. Just a smattering, however. You may wish to confront the authors of those posts, if you should happen to find those needles in the virtual haystack, and share your concerns with them as well.

* If impugning an elected official on the basis of their party affiliation troubles you, may I respectfully suggest that you place such esteemed forum personae such as Skid Row Joe and Air&Road on ignore? This could save you tremendous emotional wear and tear.

* Perhaps my post was in humor? Perhaps! Humor is in the eye of the beholder. I'm sure that a few on here who don't share Larry's political beliefs found it mildly amusing; as I am sure that a few on here who are politically allied with Larry had an unreasonably strong negative reaction.
Few things truly disturb me.
I posted this topic for rational discussion, because I feel the title is correct = the GOV has grown to LARGE and needs a serious reduction.
Every second they drag this out, more people realize we keep on living just fine without a full time government Nanny.

Watching you rip each other is sad, and part of the reason I usually avoid OD.

As many know, I have always been in favor of deleting all political and religion posts from this website, simply because they are controversial topic and have no relation to Mercedes Benz.

Several times the open discussion forum has been turned off, by the previous owner.
The current owner is allowing it to exist, until it disturbs him/causes issues.

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Old 10-05-2013, 02:38 AM
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GETTING BACK ON-TOPIC, HERE.........

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Few things truly disturb me.

I posted this topic for rational discussion, because I feel the title is correct = the GOV has grown to LARGE and needs a serious reduction.

Every second they drag this out, more people realize we keep on living just fine without a full time government Nanny.

Watching you rip each other is sad, and part of the reason I usually avoid OD.

As many know, I have always been in favor of deleting all political and religion posts from this website, simply because they are controversial topic and have no relation to Mercedes Benz.

Several times the open discussion forum has been turned off, by the previous owner.
The current owner is allowing it to exist, until it disturbs him/causes issues.

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Obama doesn't care about spending under the Debt Ceiling. That's why he hasn't submitted a budget to my knowledge in 4-years. All that guy knows is spend, spend, spend, spend...... Enough!

I posted a thread about the number of households here; "ON GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE, CELL PHONES, FOOD STAMPS, etc.," 6 days ago.

It was met with hostility here on PP OD. Not at all a surprise. Ppl getting Government Assistance of ANY kind, do not want their income and benefits disturbed - even when they don't need it.

That, Roy, is the disturbing part. That ANY American would take GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE, even when they DO NOT NEED IT!

Harry Reid, with Obama's edict, shutdown the Government - no one else did.

This is the best thing that has happened in a long, long, time for America.

It's time that We The People get the Government they want.
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:58 AM
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IIRC, it SAVES WE THE PEOPLE one billion dollars a week, and.......since the overdrawn debt of the Government here is $17 Trillion dollars, it should be cleaned-up in a few decades.

What you are witnessing, layback40, is a bloated, American Government, with a Country running perfectly fine WITHOUT THEM, with happy people, and a very "few" that might want to seek better employment opportunities than with the Government that probably doesn't need their services any longer.

WE THE PEOPLE ARE AMERICA!
Only a few decades!!
Best shut down some more government departments !
If your government was a private company it would have been foreclosed a long time ago.

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