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The Clk Man 10-04-2013 11:10 PM

Closed on the Commercial Building Today
 
Some strange things happened in the last few weeks. As I said in the other thread, the Bank President that forced me to sell the building, was the last bidder on the building. I asked the auctioneer who bought the building and he said he didn't actually know just yet. and after a few weeks of me checking through the grapevine, I found out that the building was passed off to a local investor. I expressed my concerns to the bank and the Bank President was promptly FIRED. I am talking to a lawyer to see if there is anything that can be done.

Mölyapina 10-04-2013 11:52 PM

Life is always exciting in Clk Man Land... but yeesh, that sounds a little shady at best... definitely talk to a lawyer.

spdrun 10-05-2013 12:04 AM

How can a bank president force you to sell anything? If his bank was holding the note, couldn't you have refi'ed?

P.C. 10-05-2013 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3218465)
How can a bank president force you to sell anything?

You would have to see the loan agreement and note to find out. If this was a commercial loan, there could have been financial covenants dictating a minimum debt service coverage ratio which perhaps CLK's business wasn't hitting, etc. You can be in technical default on a commercial note and be in a position to have the loan called, even if you are current on payments. Normally a bank isn't anxious to call a note in these circumstances if liquidating the collateral causes a big loss.

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3218465)
If his bank was holding the note, couldn't you have refi'ed?

Depends. If CLK was upside down on the property and could not/would not offer additional collateral to properly secure the loan, he would have had a difficult time finding another lender to refinance the note, particularly if time was short.

chilcutt 10-05-2013 07:15 AM

'Bank president being fired' sounds like BS to me.

Any way to substantiate this claim- Any news articles to support the allegation ?

TnBob 10-05-2013 10:49 AM

Proof that cash buying rules

t walgamuth 10-05-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 3218548)
'Bank president being fired' sounds like BS to me.

Any way to substantiate this claim- Any news articles to support the allegation ?

There is no reason in my mind to doubt this. It happened here with an unscrupulous bank officer I was dealing with. I took a deal to him to discuss financing and he shot it down then bought the property, which was not on the market at that time. I complained to a more senior officer and not long after that he was gone. I don't imagine I was the only complaintant, but he was gone.

SwampYankee 10-05-2013 11:07 AM

Damn, Robert. I was hoping to say while it didn't work out as planned, at least it was a done deal and you could start moving on. No it sounds like it's just getting started.

Good luck!

link 10-05-2013 11:13 AM

Good that you actually seek help from a lawyer.

panZZer 10-05-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 3218444)
Some strange things happened in the last few weeks. As I said in the other thread, the Bank President that forced me to sell the building, was the last bidder on the building. I asked the auctioneer who bought the building and he said he didn't actually know just yet. and after a few weeks of me checking through the grapevine, I found out that the building was passed off to a local investor. I expressed my concerns to the bank and the Bank President was promptly FIRED. I am talking to a lawyer to see if there is anything that can be done.

you should have already turned the entire matter over to the state attorney general

spdrun 10-05-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3218604)
There is no reason in my mind to doubt this. It happened here with an unscrupulous bank officer I was dealing with. I took a deal to him to discuss financing and he shot it down then bought the property, which was not on the market at that time. I complained to a more senior officer and not long after that he was gone. I don't imagine I was the only complaintant, but he was gone.

I hope you drove by the property a few times and reported the tiniest violations to the city. Cost the SoB in fines as well as make him lose his job!

t walgamuth 10-05-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3218789)
I hope you drove by the property a few times and reported the tiniest violations to the city. Cost the SoB in fines as well as make him lose his job!

I don't have time for that. The best revenge (I hear) is living a good life. It is my policy. Its working so far.

The Clk Man 10-05-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3218465)
How can a bank president force you to sell anything? If his bank was holding the note, couldn't you have refi'ed?

I asked the same question and he said NO.

The Clk Man 10-05-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 3218548)
'Bank president being fired' sounds like BS to me.

Any way to substantiate this claim- Any news articles to support the allegation ?

I guess you will have to take my word on this one. :)

sloride 10-05-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun (Post 3218789)
I hope you drove by the property a few times and reported the tiniest violations to the city. Cost the SoB in fines as well as make him lose his job!

I would not be surprised if some politician is not also tied into this. They know how to make any violations a huge matter until their connection takes title, and then know how to make them go away when the new owner has the right connections.


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