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martureo · #16 10-07-2013, 12:34 PM

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Depends on whether or not you think good health is attractive.

Exactly right. Most Mormons are up front about no tea, coffee, alcohol, or tobacco - wear it like a badge - and the rest they ignore or as you say, are ignorant of it.

I like the excuses of "well, the water wasn't good in Jesus' time..." when someone brings up the issue of alcohol.

And the little fact that the WoW wasn't exercised as a rule until the 20th century. There's evidence of spittoons in the SLC temple around 1900. We know that JS had a bar, drank beer, smoked cigars and chewed tobacco AFTER the WoW was "revealed." And BY smoked cigars and owned a distillery in Utah.

Way too much fun.

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I don't fully agree with you on FAIR. Some of their work is sound IMO. They do go off the rails now and then, happens a lot with true believers.

Some, you're right. But "some" doesn't really require anyone to listen to them for "most" of the time.

Then again they were better than FARMS..... which isn't saying much.

aklim · #17 10-07-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Depends on whether or not you think good health is attractive.

Is that a boolean question? Do I think it is a good idea for me to eat 3 Big Macs a meal, 3 times a day? No. Do I think I want to have good health if I had to eat grass all day long? No. Somewhere in between? Sure. But to tell me that I can only eat meat a couple times a week, no coffee or tea (not that I would even let tea touch my lips), no tobacco and fasting? No thanks. Even if I could lead a healthy life like that, I wouldn't want to be forced to do this, that or the other because some religious figure says so. That is a decision that I take with advice from my medical practitioner and not some silly deity or the interpretations of what some deity says. Why would I want to be restricted by some religion that tells me I cannot eat pork or beef, for instance? Why should I be told that I cannot eat meat on a certain day for religious purposes? How is that attractive?

cmac2012 · #18 10-08-2013, 11:40 PM

No one is being forced to eat or not eat anything, Mormons or otherwise. Do what you want, my study and experience tells me that meat every day is not the best way to go. I tried to be mostly vegan for a while and it was not fun. I do eat vegan meals semi-regularly. The theory I've heard that makes some sense is that one's body secretes various digestive enzymes and if you eat too much of the same thing day in and day out, those particular enzymes will not be in the most abundant of supply.

I look at the sort of diet that was available to the critters we evolved from, the diet that was available to them for hundreds of thousands of years (well millions) and it wasn't nearly as complex as what we modern humans can lay our hands on. Our organs evolved with that being what they were challenged with and I don't think we moderns are going to modify that in a century's time.

Pure carnivores ate meat and virtually nothing else but their digestive systems and teeth are significantly different that we apes. Hunter/gatherers ate meat when they could get it but a lot of other stuff as well, of course. I suspect when they killed a large animal, the tribe ate mostly meat for a few days. During berry season, mostly berries and so on. Our digestive systems are not well designed for the sort of really complex meals that modern life makes possible.

aklim · #19 10-08-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

No one is being forced to eat or not eat anything, Mormons or otherwise. Do what you want, my study and experience tells me that meat every day is not the best way to go. I tried to be mostly vegan for a while and it was not fun. I do eat vegan meals semi-regularly. The theory I've heard that makes some sense is that ones body secretes various digestive enzymes and if you eat too much of the same thing day in and day out, those particular enzymes are not in the most abundant of supply.

I look at the sort of diet that was available to the critters we evolved from, the diet that was available to them for hundreds of thousands of years (well millions) and it wasn't nearly as complex as what we modern humans can lay our hands on. Our organs evolved with that being what they were challenged with and I don't think we moderns are going to modify that in a century's time.

Pure carnivores ate meat and virtually nothing else but their digestive systems and teeth are significantly different that we apes. Hunter/gatherers ate meat when they could get it but a lot of other stuff as well, of course. I suspect when they killed a large animal, the tribe ate mostly meat for a few days. During berry season, mostly berries and so on.

Your theory could be right but there are 2 things.

1. This is a health issue. You are well versed in your crazy beliefs but unless they are also health studies, stick to conning the gullible and leave the health issues to professionals. They might give the same advice but they are professionals at health, you are NOT. They don't give me spiritual advice and you don't give me medical.

2. I don't plan to live forever. Just a little past retirement, where my useful life is over and when the health goes south, it's check out time. Let nature take it's course. To that end, I don't mind indulging myself a bit more even if it shortens my life. Makes no sense to me to try extend it any more.

cmac2012 · #20 10-09-2013, 12:00 AM

Dude, dude, chill the F out. My crazy beliefs? It is pretty well established that modern medical science has been barely interested in nutrition for some time now.

I too realize that I will not live forever. The issue for me isn't living til I'm 108, but rather: can I get wood w/o Ciallis or the like AND more importantly, can I pull wenches? Hot babes like hot guys and there is no reason a guy at my age (61) can't pull babes. I still do it with some success and I want to maintain and improve that, thank you very much.

aklim · #21 10-09-2013, 12:15 AM

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Dude, dude, chill the F out. My crazy beliefs? It is pretty well established that modern medical science has been barely interested in nutrition for some time now.

I too realize that I will not live forever. The issue for me isn't living til I'm 108, but rather: can I get wood w/o Ciallis or the like AND more importantly, can I pull wenches? Hot babes like hot guys and there is no reason a guy at my age (61) can't pull babes. I still do it with some success and I want to maintain and improve that, thank you very much.

No, not you. Referring the comment to the crazy beliefs of the "Spiritual Leaders".

Who cares? Cialis, Levitra or Viagra (problem with blue spots) is like adding a supercharger to a car. Who cares if it is natural or not? I'd rather have a modified car that makes 600HP than a car that comes from the factory making 200HP without modification. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw

cmac2012 · #22 10-09-2013, 12:19 AM

Yeah and I'd rather have the supercharging naturally. There's more than chemically enhance rigidity to pulling wenches.

aklim · #23 10-09-2013, 12:22 AM

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Yeah and I'd rather have the supercharging naturally. There's more than chemically enhance rigidity to pulling wenches.

Hell with nature. Nature isn't all that nice. If I could have a genetically engineered kid, I probably would go for it. To a point pulling wrenches is ok but only if I don't have to do it. Once I have to do it, it becomes work. Then it is no fun.

cmac2012 · #24 10-09-2013, 03:19 AM

Pulling WENCHES, as in do the babes come your direction, pull as in magnetic pull.

wench
/wenCH/
noun: wench; plural noun: wenches
1.
a girl or young woman.

aklim · #25 10-09-2013, 02:04 PM

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Pulling WENCHES, as in do the babes come your direction, pull as in magnetic pull.

wench
/wenCH/
noun: wench; plural noun: wenches
1.
a girl or young woman.

My bad. I saw wrench and didn't think many people used that word. Unfortunately, what we have is "ho", "b1tch", "slut" in the ghetto that creeped out to the world.

cmac2012 · #26 10-09-2013, 03:16 PM

"Pull wenches" is not a phrase one hears often in the world. I had a friend in Seattle who had interacting with women down to a science (one he did well with) and he used it.