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Old 10-29-2013, 11:57 AM
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Federal agents' pre-dawn raid on reporter's home raises questions | Fox News

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Old 10-29-2013, 12:27 PM
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It's okay, it's targeting Washington Times. They should be suppressed by the gov.

Just as the IRS should be targeting the Tea Party.

We must put a stop to these people.
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:00 PM
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The story gets more bizarre. The raid was to confiscate her husband's guns, because supposedly, he's a convicted felon(*). Yet he works for the USCG as an ordnance tech. So the Coast Guard hires felons to work with their weapons?

(*) - convicted of resisting arrest in 1986, which might make him worthy of respect in my book -- bonus points if he broke the nose of a cop or two.
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:05 PM
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If it was about guns why did they confiscate her papers?

Some weird shote going down. I may have to take chemtrails serious.
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:43 PM
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The armed agents held Hudson and her husband in the kitchen as they searched their home. At some point, one of the agents asked if she was the same person who had written a series of stories critical of the Federal Air Marshal program in the mid-2000s.

Hudson did indeed author those stories for The Washington Times.

“Those stories were embarrassing to the agency,” she told me.
If it indeed went down this way, those people were incredibly stupid, just for starters.
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:46 PM
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If it indeed went down this way, those people were incredibly stupid , just for starters.
Probably a job requirement.
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:11 PM
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stupid or not, the law equally protects all citizens......
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How could they get a warrant to search a house for guns without probable cause of a crime being committed?
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:10 PM
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How could they get a warrant to search a house for guns without probable cause of a crime being committed?
There are Judges out there, especially the on-call duty Judges that rotate their availability to sign warrants at night, weekends and holidays, that will sign practically ANYTHING that is put in front of them.

Most prosecutors know EXACTLY who they are, too, so it's basically a "pro forma" gesture and little more.

Urgent or not...


As a Judge's clerk in San Francisco Superior court, (for about 20+ years) most of it in the Criminal felony division, I can tell you for sure, that's a FACT.

("Probable cause" lies on a Procrustean bed of logic, more often than you think, trust me).


Once, as a joke, somebody on our staff, slipped in a document in, with a stack of search warrants and other orders, ordering the duty Judge to commit himself to a mental hospital, to see if he would actually sign it.

And he DID.

I AM NOT MAKING THAT UP. It was lunchroom fodder for a while # the Hall of Justice. (Quietly though).
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This report is apparently the original, not quite as breathless as the Faux News report, but no difference in substance. What I'm not finding anywhere is the bit spuddy reported here about her hubby being an excon. Where's that from?
Even Daily Kos, that rosy pink bastion of liberal slant is reporting this one. I don't like it one bit.

Coast Guard seizes journalist's records in search - Las Vegas Sun News
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elchivito, here's one reference:
Conservative Reporter Says Feds Took Her Files While Searching Her Home for Guns - Elspeth Reeve - The Atlantic Wire

(btw, I'm not condoning the raid -- frankly, to me, it stinks)
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:22 PM
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stupid or not, the law equally protects all citizens......
That is the best laugh I had in months.........

I know you read, and are not that naive.

Today, you have the right to bend over and spread for government probing..

Secret courts, issuing secret warrants and secret verdicts...

Any verbal attempt to resist allows them to Tazer you to death, seemingly without any fear of prosecution.

Refuse to answer questions = you are automatically assumed guilty and arrested = look at the SCOTUS ruling they are exploiting.

Any physical attempt to resist (or if they feel threatened) allows them to (if they desire) kill you, without fear of prosecution.

If you harm or kill (even in a traffic accident) any US government employee, you need to look up the NEW law to believe the non discretionary penalties.

It is now criminal to protest or assemble at any location where there are secret service agents = passed with the highest congress/senate Repub - Dem vote in history = Look up the new law Obama signed with a big grin.

The odds of any US government agent getting so much as a note in their employment file is roughly 0.00001% ...........


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The part that caught my eye was the Coast Guard membership of the Husband, what his connection with the Coast Guard consists of, and that the Coast Guard was the instigator of the raid.

The fact that the woman's papers were taken is the problem with all of this since they were not, as far as I can ascertain, contained in the warrant.

But if the Husband deals with weapons while in the Coast Guard, and the warrant was to search for weapons, it sounds as if the Coast Guard suspects the Husband of taking his work home, so to speak.

It is understandable that the police would wish to gather all the evidence they can, but are they allowed to seize items found but not listed in the warrant?
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:55 PM
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How could they get a warrant to search a house for guns without probable cause of a crime being committed?
Good question! Someone want to write and find out?

I have fiund that only famous reporters get some protection

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