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Old 11-05-2013, 11:53 PM
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Unbelievably close race for Attorney General tonight. It's come down to a somewhat Blue county in the north and 2 Blue jurisdictions in Tidewater (big Obama jurisdictions) versus one Red county in the far south and a fews Red jurisdictions in the Valley (redneck country for lack of a better term). If you are interested in a horserace, here's a good website to watch: Virginia 2013 general election results - The Washington Post

I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the Tea Party for handing the Governorship and Lieutenant Governorship to the Democrats. Terry McAuliffe, Governor of the Old Dominion, the office once held by Thomas Jefferson. Go figure.

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Old 11-06-2013, 02:47 AM
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Not a good night for the tea party.
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:21 AM
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A very good night for the tea party folks. The Repos are a bunch of cowards and the Demos are a bunch of jealous whiners. Hope the tea party folks continue to rend the modern political fabric.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:40 AM
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Not good for the neo-con Tea Party v.2.0.

Those of us who could relate to the message of the original "tea party" movement before it (essentially) became a conservative branch of the Republican party don't have an issue with it. Big Rep govt. isn't any more palatable than Big Dem govt.

I'm not sure I'd call Sarvis a Libertarian despite being on the ticket as one. That whole strange political bedfellows thing comes to mind.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:52 AM
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A very good night for the tea party folks. The Repos are a bunch of cowards and the Demos are a bunch of jealous whiners. Hope the tea party folks continue to rend the modern political fabric.
Maybe you missed the part where the Tea Party helped Terry McAuliffe become Governor of Virginia. That is crazy. The non-Tea Party GOP candidate who lost the nomination, Bill Bolling, would have mopped the floor with McAuliffe. Now, we have the Governor's mansion for 4 years, with a previously unknown, but very impressive, Ralph Northam as Lieutenant Governor who will probably be well positioned to win it for the next 4 years after that. The Tea Party candidate for Lieutenant Governor was even more preposterous than the one they put up for Governor.

The only fabric being rended around here is the GOP fabric. Keep it up, Tea Party.

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Old 11-06-2013, 09:16 AM
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You guys are killing me.....if it wasn't for the Obama funded fake libertarian, Cucch would have won.

And don't forget all the sucker Libertarians.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:23 AM
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Maybe you missed the part where the Tea Party helped Terry McAuliffe become Governor of Virginia. That is crazy. The non-Tea Party GOP candidate who lost in the primaries, Bill Bolling, would have mopped the floor with McAuliffe. Now, we have the Governor's mansion for 4 years, with a previously unknown, but very impressive, Ralph Northam as Lieutenant Governor who will probably be well positioned to win it for the next 4 years after that. The Tea Party candidate for Lieutenant Governor was even more preposterous than the one they put up for Governor.

The only fabric being rended around here is the GOP fabric. Keep it up, Tea Party.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:45 AM
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You guys are killing me.....if it wasn't for the Obama funded fake libertarian, Cucch would have won...
I'm not sure what anyone said here that would be killing you. I agree with what you say about Sarvis.

EDIT: I should clarify. I don't know whether Sarvis is a fake libertarian, but I agree that he probably hurt Cuccinelli.

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Old 11-06-2013, 09:58 AM
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You guys are killing me.....if it wasn't for the Obama funded fake libertarian, Cucch would have won.

And don't forget all the sucker Libertarians.
Servis was not running for the Governor's position. He was running to place the Libertarians on the 2016 ballot in Virginia.

To be on the ballot in a state wide race there are requirements to be met. The Libertarians met the requirements and ran someone.

To be on the ballot in a nationwide race, (i.e.), the President, a party must pull ten percent of the state wide vote. The Libertarians pulled seven percent, so the bid to run a national race there is lost for 2016.

Did the Libertarians take funding from sources outside their traditional ones? Perhaps, but if so this is a very old ploy and frankly everyone is involved in this type of thing.

But those of you from the state might be in a better position to comment on my line of thought, and any corrections to this post would be welcome.
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While it is not my intention to hijack the thread I would like to comment on the New Jersey race.

Republicans are touting this as an endorsement for Republicans. I doubt this. I would suggest it is more of a big win for Gov. Christie.

During the 1980 election cycle Reagan won by no less than a true landslide, but this was not a case of Democrats suddenly embracing Republican concepts. It was due to Democrats seeing someone who could make things work running for office, and that is who they voted for. During Reagan's re-election run he was seen as someone who had taken a bad situation and, due to hard work, made it better. The key words here are hard, work and better.

If Gov. Christie can continue to maintain his work record and continue to reject the influence of groups that think they know better than he how to run New Jersey then he may have a shot at the landing the top of the Republican ticket in 2016. I would say he has the VP spot wrapped up now.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:17 AM
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Maybe you missed the part where the Tea Party helped Terry McAuliffe become Governor of Virginia. That is crazy. The non-Tea Party GOP candidate who lost in the primaries, Bill Bolling, would have mopped the floor with McAuliffe. Now, we have the Governor's mansion for 4 years, with a previously unknown, but very impressive, Ralph Northam as Lieutenant Governor who will probably be well positioned to win it for the next 4 years after that. The Tea Party candidate for Lieutenant Governor was even more preposterous than the one they put up for Governor.

The only fabric being rended around here is the GOP fabric. Keep it up, Tea Party.
The rules were changed this year by the state republican party. There was no primary. The conservative state party delegates selected Cuccinelli in a convention that did not allow the citizens of Va to have a voice.

Unless that changes, Democrats will rule the statewide elections.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:49 AM
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The Tea Party is funded by the Democrats. Right?

I mean they seem to be doing more to help the Democrats win than the Republicans . . . .
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The Tea Party is funded by the Democrats. Right?

I mean they seem to be doing more to help the Democrats win than the Republicans . . . .
Actually, its the old school republicans who want the Tea Party to go away. Old school does what it wants, not what the people want.

Tea Party has been Alinsky'd rather unfairly I think.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:55 AM
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...During the 1980 election cycle Reagan won by no less than a true landslide, but this was not a case of Democrats suddenly embracing Republican concepts. It was due to Democrats seeing someone who could make things work running for office, and that is who they voted for. During Reagan's re-election run he was seen as someone who had taken a bad situation and, due to hard work, made it better. The key words here are hard, work and better...
I suspect that the same factors drove Cuccinelli's loss in Virginia. If you look at the last six Virginia Governors, the ones who remained popular with the voters were the ones who focused on good management. The two who got in trouble with the voters (Allen and Gilmore) abandoned the Virginia tradition of pay-as-you-go, prudent government and focused instead on ideological gimmicks. Cuccinelli is almost nothing but ideological gimmicks. IMHO, that's why the voters held their noses and elected a non-Virginian political operative to be our next Governor.
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I hope Virginia cuts taxes and then rescinds 30% of the tax cut so they can claim they raised taxes and thus economic prosperity will ensue. I could care less who does it; white, black, yellow, brown, left, right, middle or extreme. If the "Tea Party" has a effect on the election then more power to them- same with Libertarian.

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