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Old 11-29-2013, 05:42 PM
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Saab back in business...

...9-3 sedan back in production on Monday. Under Chinese ownership:
Saab Automobile New Owner to Start Car Production Monday - WSJ.com

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Old 11-29-2013, 05:45 PM
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Under Chinese ownership
Hopefully not fitted with Uro parts.
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I find it interesting that in the '50's and '60's, many premium marques today such as Audi, Porsche, BMW, and even our beloved Mercedes were merely "niche" cars, and that Saab was the only one to go by the wayside.
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Hard to say if they might buy many more labels at this time. Saab was a little early as the Chinese cannot meet oriental demand yet for their cars.

I estimate their automotive products will show up in north America before ten years have passed. This may not be a good thing for a lot of brands.

I am not expecting junk cars but suspect they will be cheap cars. Especially if all manufacturing is done in China. So far they have kept their currency value low. I now expect that for the next seven year period at least it will be as well.

I am possibly out of touch or out on a limb. Still I feel we are engaged in an economic war that is not being declared as such. What is worse is we seem to be losing it by my yardstick if this is true. China has plans in force to double it's economy in about seven years. Where are the plans for North America?
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:41 PM
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I am not expecting junk cars but suspect they will be cheap cars. Especially if all manufacturing is done in China.
I would suspect it will be similar to what Honda did in the mid-to-late 70s. I would welcome simple(relative to the time) cars void of all the needless electro technology todays cars are fitted with. Envisioning just how much further down the toilet the U. S. will be in 7-10 years, I'd bet a buck China will sell beaucoup of their cars.
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I hope they bring back the 9-5 and especially the wagon. Occasionally I see a brave soul driving the last 9-5 sedan, which is a really beautiful car. Of the wagon I believe not more than a dozen made it to the states and were never for sale.
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Good news!
I bought a new 1978 '99' model hatchback coupe. That's my daughter in it, she's 40 now.

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Old 11-30-2013, 05:28 PM
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Hard to say if they might buy many more labels at this time. Saab was a little early as the Chinese cannot meet oriental demand yet for their cars.

I estimate their automotive products will show up in north America before ten years have passed. This may not be a good thing for a lot of brands.

I am not expecting junk cars but suspect they will be cheap cars. Especially if all manufacturing is done in China. So far they have kept their currency value low. I now expect that for the next seven year period at least it will be as well.

I am possibly out of touch or out on a limb. Still I feel we are engaged in an economic war that is not being declared as such. What is worse is we seem to be losing it by my yardstick if this is true. China has plans in force to double it's economy in about seven years. Where are the plans for North America?
Over here we have had Great Wall pick ups & 4WDs as well as Chery micro's for a couple of years. That is going to stop very soon as they dont have traction control & ESC. These are going to be mandatory on new cars from the start of 2014 in Australia.
Great Wall has had a few problems especially with asbestos in gaskets & brake parts. The Chinese have little respect for other countries regulations. This will change though with import bans for non compliance.
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I would suspect it will be similar to what Honda did in the mid-to-late 70s. I would welcome simple(relative to the time) cars void of all the needless electro technology todays cars are fitted with. Envisioning just how much further down the toilet the U. S. will be in 7-10 years, I'd bet a buck China will sell beaucoup of their cars.
That would not be as easy as it was then. Between safety mandates, emission, and fuel economy requirements SAAB is >five years behind the times now to be sold here, or even given away here which is what they would need to do.
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Good news!
I bought a new 1978 '99' model hatchback coupe. That's my daughter in it, she's 40 now.

Nice. My Dad owned one when I was a kid. Pea green in color with green interior, foam-like texture seats iirc.

Think it was a 75, because in 78 he bought a 280Z.
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I find it interesting that in the '50's and '60's, many premium marques today such as Audi, Porsche, BMW, and even our beloved Mercedes were merely "niche" cars, and that Saab was the only one to go by the wayside.
If Mercedes were "niche" that was only in the US. There was nothing "niche" about them elsewhere in the world.

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Your claim could be made about all those marques.
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I had a 92 900S convertible. It was an OK car. I bought it as my first car after moving to the US from the the UK because price wise, it was comparable to what I would have to spend one if I bought it in the UK. They had a great reputation for build quality and just about everything else was 2-3 times more expensive then what i was used to paying (this was pre-craigslist days).

My daily driver in the UK was an E30 BMW 318i and I can honestly say that compared to the BMW, the Saab was inferior in terms of build quality and performance. It was so slow that I'm certain that a 300D Turbo would outrun it. The turbo's are much quicker.

I would not consider it reliable either, and it was quirky enough so that not many people could work on it. If I wanted quirky again, I think that a Citroen DS would be a better bet.

I tried very much to love it, but was very happy when I bought the 97 E420 which replaced it.
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Saab 900s are still relatively common in the US. Citroen DS's, not so much, since they were only imported for a few years and discontinued in the mid-70s,

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