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barry12345 · #31 12-05-2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

You get used to it, within a month you forget $3 gas ever existed.

Well living up here in Canada. Gas is about 5.20 an American gallon currently where we reside. Has been as high as six dollars an American gallon. As Jorn says over time you just get almost used to it.

Believe me even four dollar per American gallon gas is a very distant memory to us up here. Some of us older guys on site like myself remember five American gallons for a dollar for quite a period in our lives. We got almost four American gallons for a dollar because of higher taxation during that period in Canada.

The one thing you seem to do or the majority do in todays environment. Is buy vehicles that are not hard on fuel. Plus require very infrequent repairs with a good resale value. Very few manufactures produce product like that. So far almost a Japanese exclusive. Many are going 200 thousand miles with few issues developing still.

If you are smart also attempt to combine trips to some extent when possible. It is all income dependant is the reality though. We have enough income in retirement fortunately. Old acquired perhaps by necessity habits like keeping an eye on prices seem to never disappear at the same time though. Once again as Jorn mentioned you just get used to it and that may be a danger in itself.

The wife for example still buys many of the food leaders when grocery shopping. I tend to repair all we own as another seemingly unstoppable habit from another time as well.

Those at the minumin wage levels at about 10.25 probably have difficulty with our fuel prices. Furnace fuel oil is 4.80 an American gallon as well but the oil furnace is on it's way out as a result today. Heat pumps seem to be taking over locally with some baseboard backup.

Actually rising prices have not changed our lives as a family as incomes rose faster than costs for many years. Still with the North American economy in it's present really questionable condition raises questions.

What is generally ignored in day to day life . A slow and hopefully not too rapid reversal of fortunes is not an impossibility at the same time. Our Canadian real estate at this time is finally starting to face price reversals.

It does amaze me that the whole mess is somehow holding together so far. I hope it is not all borrowed money in one form or another doing it. Although it certainly is at the consumer end at this point in time. People are still substantially increasing their debt loading statistics show even if it is at a slightly slower rate.. Government shell games go almost beyond understanding at this point in history. Right over the top seems to be a workable strategy as a limit for them now I suspect. The problem is absolutely no one knows where that point is or if it will be reached. Increasing fuel prices are but a small portion of the overall issues.

TnBob · #32 12-06-2013, 01:54 AM

Regular gas was about $1.80 per gallon in Dec 08

Honus · #33 12-06-2013, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TnBob

Regular gas was about $1.80 per gallon in Dec 08

2008 ... boy, those were the days, economically speaking.

Top 10 Economic Events in 2008

rs899 · #34 12-06-2013, 06:33 AM

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Regular gas was about $1.80 per gallon in Dec 08

..that's because the economy was in the tank as well.

SwampYankee · #35 12-06-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

Many pumps I've seen have the tax amounts on a label. It's not illegal.

How will higher taxes help you, since you're in residential construction rather than government or road construction? Or do you mean that Suburbans will be on discount?

My bad. It's illegal in the state of CT for retailers to display the federal and state taxes at the pump. I should have been more specific.

Of course CT is always at or near the top for state fuel taxes so that may be the reason.

Gasoline $0.493 (behind only CA and HI)
Diesel $0.549 (We're #1. We're #1.

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Re: newer Suburban-folks will start unloading them cheap. Now that I'm not traveling as much, I only put 6-7K on mine per year so fuel price isn't much of an issue for me. Mine has been worked pretty hard and it's really starting to show. I'm in the ag/turf & ornamental business and still do some field and site visits/inspections with customers and equipment in tow as well as hauling family and stuff down the dirt road to our camp in ME (especially mud season in the spring and winter trips). It's a necessary evil for me.

We also make out pretty well when there is a lot of road construction (grass and wetlands restoration) so I'd like to see it!

SwampYankee · #36 12-06-2013, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by panZZer

A good example of blowing smoke up our asses is chesapeake buying off politicans and co-ordinating with them to plug the energy independence line, to get the populace maliable twards whatever they want to do.......... and when they got it (the bait), they just switch the benevolency mask for the free trader one-and export for the highest $ amount they can find, to hell with keeping fuel prices managable for US consumers--or putting an infrastructure in place ( like affordable vehicle conversions to run on cng/lpg).

As far as the bozo from oregon, he's got no buisness infering that every other state is lihe his and needs to adopt his plans.

You can assume if it comes from me, in regards to what comes out of a politicians mouths, that I believe they're blowing smoke until they actually do otherwise.

Botnst · #37 12-06-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Honus

I don't know the particulars of this proposal, but anything we can do to raise tax revenue to rebuild our roads sounds good to me. At the rate we are going, we are going to have a third-world economy to go along with our third-world infrastructure.

The GOP doesn't understand the meaning of "investment."

Bottom line? It's all about party politics.

If your state/county/city wants to raise taxes for local roads, go for it locally.

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t walgamuth · #38 12-06-2013, 08:53 AM

I don't mind paying some additional road taxes, but I object to diesel being charged more per gallon than gas.

sloride · #39 12-06-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

You get used to it, within a month you forget $3 gas ever existed.

That is right, as I told wifey yesterday I better go fill up your car as it is $3.07/gal better get it while it is cheap. I think I said the same thing one day when i saw it for $4.07/per gal a few months back.

sloride · #40 12-06-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippy

How about we leave diesel alone and up the tax on petrol by a buck a gallon? It might stimulate more diesel options on this side of the pond and also get some of the S-boxes off the road.

I thought the government program cash for clunkers did that already, got the S#1+ boxes off the road.

SwampYankee · #41 12-06-2013, 09:15 AM

We should tax economy cars more. They clearly aren't paying their fair share!

sloride · #42 12-06-2013, 09:16 AM

It looks like there may be more C/L ads for 123's that get 35-40 mpg. on free fuel.

Botnst · #43 12-06-2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SwampYankee

We should tax economy cars more. They clearly aren't paying their fair share!

Hahahaha!!

sloride · #44 12-06-2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Honus

I don't know the particulars of this proposal, but anything we can do to raise tax revenue to rebuild our roads sounds good to me. At the rate we are going, we are going to have a third-world economy to go along with our third-world infrastructure.

The GOP doesn't understand the meaning of "investment."

I guess the Dems know how to invest. Like giving $7500.00 tax credits for full electric vehicles, that pay no road use tax. That was a great idea for investing in our road infrastructure.

Phillytwotank · #45 12-06-2013, 10:46 AM

Bring it on ding dongs!!