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Any (natural) gas engineers here?
G'day Folks,
The end of year bill for my domestic energy supplies has just landed with a heavy thud on my doormat. My electricity usage is pretty low and that's good for the pocket but my amount of gas usage is apparently more than the average usage here in Holland. I have a feeling that it is because the people who come and service the boiler work for the company who supplies the gas - I wouldn't be surprised if there is some tweaking going on. {Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean the bastards aren't out to get me} So I'd like to check the condition of my boiler my self. So where would I start to find the equipment to measure clean burning of natural gas? Anyone know?
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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(If we can speed through the fart jokes that'll be great!)
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Hey Stretch, you know what a dickydo is?
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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'Round here you get in big trouble for messing with boilers if you don't have a ticket....dangerous too. Is'nt there nozzles with orifices in those things that direct the gas...maybe they can be replaced, if dirty or clogged? Maybe you can change size of orifice? (I am not gas fitter)
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just telling jokes...they actually have that one in the dictionary? wow, killed it. I think everyone else went to bed. We're the only ones still awake.
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If it's a boiler in your house, who'll know unless it explodes? Also remember that home steam heat boilers generally run at 1-2 psi -- this isn't a locomotive or power plant that we're talking about.
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I understand the fear everyone has about combustible products - they used to think the same about petrol being transported about the place by these strange vehicles with four wheels on them...
...but if you were to meet the primates who come along to the house and pretend to service the boiler (and probably just jack off in my roof space) you'd be more nervous of some serious damage occurring than by me having a look at it.
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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oh, spdrun's still awake. Well in that case. Do you have good windows and insulation value? How thick are the walls in your house? R-value?
A friend just hooked up a boiler for his new shop this past summer...He has in-floor radiant heat...apparently super cheap to heat your garage or shop. very efficient....It is the new thing here, next to geothermal. He used an old home boiler that lost one of the 3 tanks(cracked). He got it for free... and because the shop floor only required 2 of the tanks, he eliminated the cracked one and had 2 tanks left over for his free boiler system. just hooked the remaining 2 together and modified a few things and its working well. I watched him do it. |
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So the tube that feeds the jet of gas has brass orifices that screw into the main gas tube. Because he eliminated one of the tanks, he had to take one of the orifices out and put a plug into that chamber so it was'nt just heating nothing. The brass orifices unscrew from the main gas tube and I imagine they would'nt be too expensive to just buy some and swap them out. I don't know how he got them. I know that I tried to buy some gas water heater parts one time and they would'nt sell it to me unless I had a ticket. Like I said though...I know nothing other than what I watched him do...trouble shooting them is another story...there could maybe be other things going on. Can the tanks build up scale? Can you clean them out if you take it apart...I don't know. There must be a gas valve on them...although I don't know how that would effect efficientcy.
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I think they have a pump on them that pumps the antifreeze or whatever it is throughout your slantfin after it is heated in the boiler. I know his had some sort of expansion tank on it too. I think all this stuff works together as a system reading temp and turning on pumps gas valves, thermocouples, etc. There was a little basic circuit board in his that was probably acting like the computer or brain of the system to make it all work.
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You find that equiptment in the back of the trucks that the guys from the gas company drive. Thats gotta be a record even for me.... I think I pissed him off...took me 2 minutes, he's gone in less than 7 minutes |
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gastroenterologist might be able to check out your boiler and your dickydo!
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The chemistry of a fart=methane gas, could be other by-products...depends on how efficient your boiler is working?
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come on Stretch...why you gotta be like that?
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