no water.... never had to deal with it.... what to do? (21* here)

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Wait for it to thaw and buy some lagging for next time?

Go to the shop and buy some bottled water?

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Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

cut off the supply and start cutting and patching...

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Turn the main supply off, then thaw the pipes before they freeze hard enough to break. If you can locate the frozen section (where the pipes are coldest) a light bulb in the vicinity is often enough to thaw them. But a hair dryer will work more quickly. If you have an electric welder, putting one clamp on one end of the pipe and the other on the other end and running the welder at low amperage can thaw the pipes. Once they thaw, keep the water running with a small stream so it can't freeze again.

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Galvanised or copper? Crawlspace-basement or slab ?

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PVC. Ground. I believe they diddnt bury it far enough down and the whole sucker froze from house to road.

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I would guess it's somewhere near where it enters the house. Even with your cold stretch I wouldn't think it's been cold enough to freeze the ground deep enough to affect buried lines, unless it's only inches down. It takes a long time for the soil temp to drop and subsequently freeze below the surface.

Does the supply come into the house above the ground?

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I agree that it's not cold enough to freeze buried pipe. It's likely frozen where it is exposed to the air somewhere. Is there no water at all anywhere? If so it's probably the main supply line frozen. Start in the vicinity of the shut off valve and work in both directions from there looking for a likely cold spot.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Stupid question -- but are you sure the pipes did freeze vs something else happening? Perhaps the water company was doing some work and didn't turn something back on.

Did your OP mean +21 or -21? At +21 depending on where you are located you need to do some insulating or other measures or you will see this again. By the way I have a similar situation but at -18 one copper pipe from upstairs sink to shower between rafters that froze and split so will be doing some pipe replacing tomorrow.

That's what I thought, I had them out, they showed it working on their side, I called a plumber who did the waterline and they are coming out, the big shutoff valve I had installed wouldn't turn. Frozen solid.

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1987 300TD 311,000M Stolen. Presumed destroyed

Sharkbites and PEX and you'll be done in 10 minutes. Did one the other day.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

I never heard of sharkbites! I planned on just sweating new copper lines. Thanks I will look them up as using a torch between the rafters is tricky.

He's in the Sunshine State.

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'06 Chevy Tahoe Z71 (for the wife & 4 kids, current mule) '03 Honda Odyssey (son #1's ride, reluctantly) '99 GMC Suburban (255K+ miles, semi-retired mule) 21' SeaRay Seville (summer escape pod)

I'd probably still solder the pipes -- I have a perhaps unnatural aversion to plastic flex in a house.

You can get a welder's blanket to protect the wood rafters and/or wet down the area before using the torch.