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Honus 02-24-2014 10:26 AM

This article - Ted Nugent's 'Subhuman Mongrel' Slur, in Translation : The New Yorker - makes a good point about context. When taken in context, Nugent's entire comment is even worse than the "subhuman mongrel" part taken out of context. Here's Nugent's quote:
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I have obviously failed to galvanize and prod, if not shame, enough Americans to be ever vigilant not to let a Chicago Communist-raised, Communist-educated, Communist-nurtured subhuman mongrel like the ACORN community organizer gangster Barack Hussein Obama to weasel his way into the top office of authority in the United States of America.
The New Yorker article makes the point that Nugent's comment is not merely racist (though it clearly is), Nugent's statement goes to the supposed illegitimacy of Obama's presidency. Context is always important. In this case, the context goes against Nugent.

Botnst 02-24-2014 12:23 PM

"Monkey" is ok. Mongrel is definitely out.

OTOH, a look at the genetics of most Americans seems to suggest "mongrel" is more accurate than "monkey."

INSIDIOUS 02-24-2014 01:21 PM

"sub-human" How do you create it? Inter-species breeding? Perhaps Ted is not well educated in definitions of Race v Species.

SwampYankee 02-24-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 3290406)
What ever happened to all the "respect for the office" bullshlt the right spouted when people made fun of Bush?
Nugent is a moron, and so is anyone who takes anything he says or does seriously.

All part of the annoying tit-for-tat that's turned political discourse into a $h!t-fligging slap fight. You don't respect "my" guy, we're not going to respect "your" guy. :thumbdown: I don't foresee anything changing in the near future. :annoyed:

And yes.

Jim B. 02-24-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS (Post 3291981)
"sub-human" How do you create it? Inter-species breeding? Perhaps Ted is not well educated in definitions of Race v Species.

This discussion has descended a few rungs on the evolutionary ladder.

Buh bye.

INSIDIOUS 02-24-2014 01:47 PM

You are excused.
 
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Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 3291988)
This discussion has descended a few rungs on the evolutionary ladder.

Buh bye.

My apologies if things are exceeding your intellectual expectations. From the book of Genetics According to Ted: Caucasoids (Science calls this a race) are the Human species. Other things, such as Mongoloids and Negroids are not, and are in fact lessor. Now if a Caucasoid were to interbreed with anything else (despite that science says inter-species breeding cannot occur by definition) the result is sub human. Ted apparently believes blacks and orientals are not human, so it is not a stretch for him to have special feelings for those of mixed races. He doesn't seem to have a grasp of the terminology, but he is indeed a racist, and in fact an ignorant one.

Botnst 02-24-2014 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS (Post 3291993)
My apologies if things are exceeding your intellectual expectations. From the book of Genetics According to Ted: Caucasoids (Science calls this a race) are the Human species. Other things, such as Mongoloids and Negroids are not, and are in fact lessor. Now if a Caucasoid were to interbreed with anything else (despite that science says inter-species breeding cannot occur by definition) the result is sub human. Ted apparently believes blacks and orientals are not human, so it is not a stretch for him to have special feelings for those of mixed races. He doesn't seem to have a grasp of the terminology, but he is indeed a racist, and in fact an ignorant one.

Perhaps you can provide a link to where Ted said what you wrote. I won't hold my breath.

Don't you think what he said is repulsive enough without embellishing it?

INSIDIOUS 02-24-2014 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3292085)
Perhaps you can provide a link to where Ted said what you wrote. I won't hold my breath.

Don't you think what he said is repulsive enough without embellishing it?

It wasn't claimed to be a quote, it is an analysis of the "logic" of his claim. But feel free to hold your breath :)

Txjake 02-24-2014 08:33 PM

Sounds like ted has yall in a stranglehold.

Botnst 02-24-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS (Post 3292107)
It wasn't claimed to be a quote, it is an analysis of the "logic" of his claim. But feel free to hold your breath :)

Don't you think what he said is repulsive enough without embellishing it?

INSIDIOUS 02-24-2014 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3292186)
Don't you think what he said is repulsive enough without embellishing it?

If by embellish you mean point at ignorance?

Botnst 02-24-2014 09:45 PM

Embellishment.

INSIDIOUS 02-24-2014 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3292206)
Embellishment.

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3290360)
Oh, for fun?

I think Nuge is an ass and a clown. I think Obama is an ass and a clown. I would love to be entertained by their stinkbug assaults.

Let me amend that: I AM amused by their stinkbug assaults.

Embellishment.

Botnst 02-25-2014 08:08 AM

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

JamesDean 02-25-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3292327)
I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Embellishment



:D


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