Originally Posted by spdrun

The Russian government during the 20th century was a nasty piece of work. Probably responsible for more deaths than Nazi Germany. Don't forget that they were allied with the Nazis till Hitler turned on them. They invaded half of Poland and were responsible for unspeakable atrocities. Ever heard of Katyn Forest? I had family who died in Soviet concentration camps and others who didn't get back the same and died soon after.

If we had dealt with it as severely as we had dealt with the Japanese or Germans during WW II and not sold half of Europe down the river, perhaps a lot of suffering and environmental/economic damage due to the Cold War could have been averted. Too late now. If they waltz into Ukraine (after being "invited" to "restore order" of course, just as happened in Budapest in 1956 or Prague in 1968), no way we'd risk going to war with a nuclear-armed power. Who will be next? Poland? A Russian empire emboldened by successful reconquest of territory is a nightmare scenario.

As to Putin getting a taste of his own medicine, it's nothing that he hasn't done to his enemies. Remember Yuchchenko? Litvinenko? The man is a nasty piece of work and a war criminal. But you're right. I should take the high road. Public trial in The Hague and imprisonment for life would suffice.

I do not hate individual Russians, far from it. But their government has been consistently evil and violent with brief interludes over the past 96 years.

Originally Posted by spdrun

The Russian government during the 20th century was a nasty piece of work. Probably responsible for more deaths than Nazi Germany. Don't forget that they were allied with the Nazis till Hitler turned on them. They invaded half of Poland and were responsible for unspeakable atrocities. Ever heard of Katyn Forest? I had family who died in Soviet concentration camps and others who didn't get back the same and died soon after.

If we had dealt with it as severely as we had dealt with the Japanese or Germans during WW II and not sold half of Europe down the river, perhaps a lot of suffering and environmental/economic damage due to the Cold War could have been averted. Too late now. If they waltz into Ukraine (after being "invited" to "restore order" of course, just as happened in Budapest in 1956 or Prague in 1968), no way we'd risk going to war with a nuclear-armed power. Who will be next? Poland? A Russian empire emboldened by successful reconquest of territory is a nightmare scenario.

As to Putin getting a taste of his own medicine, it's nothing that he hasn't done to his enemies. Remember Yuchchenko? Litvinenko? The man is a nasty piece of work and a war criminal. But you're right. I should take the high road. Public trial in The Hague and imprisonment for life would suffice.

I do not hate individual Russians, far from it. But their government has been consistently evil and violent with brief interludes over the past 96 years.

Originally Posted by Botnst

Gen Curtis Lemay would have agreed with you right down the line.

Originally Posted by rs899

^^ She was at one time. Are you sure you are looking at current pictures? A year or two in the slammer hasn't done her much good...