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benhogan 02-25-2014 04:06 PM

Man rapes and kills 4 year old
 
how can some people be this way?
Doctors, nurses 'feverishly worked' to save tortured 4-year-old :: WRAL.com

this makes my blood boil. 10 days of torture. I listened to the defense's opening statement but could not listen for long. ugh. he blames his own unhappy childhood for not knowing how to care for a kid. huh?

the kid looks like a kid I would have if I had a daughter.

Hatterasguy 02-25-2014 04:11 PM

They should tie this guy up and lay him on a fire ant mound, not the US ones the big pissed off African ones. Wonder if you gave him water how long it would take the ants to kill him and strip him to a skeleton? 10 days maybe?

Ara T. 02-25-2014 04:49 PM

Wtf is with the last quote? lol.. he was unequipped to take care of a 4 year old... no **** sherlock.

Can't Know 02-25-2014 05:06 PM

I don't buy that BS, not for one minute.

You wouldn't treat a dog that way, or even a goldfish, so his standard of care falls well below how to care for a child.

He's a sick individual, period. No amount of psychobabble can explain or excuse his abuse of that poor kid, but his attorneys will argue it because that's their job. At this point their only option is to argue for some sympathy, because it might keep their client off death row.

benhogan 02-25-2014 05:58 PM

the whole is very disturbing to me (and all of you I am sure) and makes me wish i had a time machine to rescue this kid.
the last thing the prosecutor said in his opening remark to the jury was......"after you see the evidence and this is all over, you will never be the same again....any of you". He got that one right.

I'm a guy who can't handle a paper cut. Thinking about this kid. Dang....I need a stiff drink right now!

Botnst 02-25-2014 06:12 PM

Just kill him and be done.

MTI 02-25-2014 06:22 PM

string him up, anybody got any string?

aklim 02-25-2014 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benhogan (Post 3292560)
he blames his own unhappy childhood for not knowing how to care for a kid. huh?

the kid looks like a kid I would have if I had a daughter.

Well, isn't that what I have called "The Standard American Defense"? Fact that the Attorney uses it shows it has had success like the kid with "affluenza".

Ok, President Obama.

benhogan 02-25-2014 06:31 PM

I would give up all my MB's and drive a Yugo for the rest of my life if I could save this kid from all that agony. I would throw in most of my net worth which took me 25 years to build to boot.

aklim 02-25-2014 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Can't Know (Post 3292581)
No amount of psychobabble can explain or excuse his abuse of that poor kid, but his attorneys will argue it because that's their job. At this point their only option is to argue for some sympathy, because it might keep their client off death row.

Seeing how it has worked in the past, I would say it is the smart card to play, not to mention, probably the only one left. Seeing as how gullible we are to psychobabble, I would hazard a guess to say he probably would get enough sympathy to keep him off death row.

Can't Know 02-25-2014 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3292623)
Well, isn't that what I have called "The Standard American Defense"? Fact that the Attorney uses it shows it has had success like the kid with "affluenza".

Ok, President Obama.

...don't forget the "twinkie defense!" :D :D


Quote:

Seeing how it has worked in the past, I would say it is the smart card to play, not to mention, probably the only one left. Seeing as how gullible we are to psychobabble, I would hazard a guess to say he probably would get enough sympathy to keep him off death row.
In states where the DP is a potential, they march in every witness and trot out every argument they can to ply the jury for sympathy. Heck, in Missouri the attorneys for a guy on death row have even complained that the state hasn't told him which pharmacy they're using to get the drugs, and the underlying reason is so they can sue them into scaring off of supplying them. It's quite a racket for those vehemently opposed to the DP.

To me, if you're going to allow the DP, then you abbreviate those kinds of specious attacks. Let the lawyers argue about what a rough childhood the guy had or whatever, but if he's convicted and sentenced to death, you just have the ordinary appeals, etc. In fact I'd support protective legislation for the pharmacy suppliers of the chemicals used, just like in the olden days of the firing squad, the criminal had no right to know who was holding the rifles.

I suppose that's one more argument in favor of doing away with the DP, it will end those kinds of arguments, and it would put a lot of weasly attorneys out of a job, so maybe I'll change my mind about it. :P

Air&Road 02-25-2014 07:07 PM

I think Hats proposal is best. Ten days of fire ants would do the job.

Hatterasguy 02-25-2014 07:16 PM

It happened in a good conservative state, I have no idea how the defense attorney's are going to get any sympathy out of the jury. There going to rule to execute him.

I like the fire ants, much cheaper and more fair to the poor little child.

barry12345 02-25-2014 07:32 PM

Too sick a situation for me even to comment much on. I never buy the poor childhood excuse as that indicates it is rare. The reality is poor childhoods are not.

Actually some of the worse atrocities have been commited by well to do families offspring. . We develop instincts and charactaristics good and bad. But this type of thing is way over the top.

The only thing is to keep this type of animal out of circulation one way or another. He has both no conscience and no normal emotions. He may not be able to on those grounds to equate to any form of punishment.

aklim 02-25-2014 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Can't Know (Post 3292666)
In states where the DP is a potential, they march in every witness and trot out every argument they can to ply the jury for sympathy. Heck, in Missouri the attorneys for a guy on death row have even complained that the state hasn't told him which pharmacy they're using to get the drugs, and the underlying reason is so they can sue them into scaring off of supplying them. It's quite a racket for those vehemently opposed to the DP.

I suppose that's one more argument in favor of doing away with the DP, it will end those kinds of arguments, and it would put a lot of weasly attorneys out of a job, so maybe I'll change my mind about it. :P

The attorney has a job. To mount as much of a defense as possible. I don't blame them for doing their duty. I blame the 12 guys who swallow psychobabble.

You want to put them out of a job? Pretty simple. Unset the precedence. Don't listen to the BS.


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