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Full Exit From Afghanistan in 2014?
Obama to Karzai, No Post-2014 Presence Without Signed Security Agreement
Obama has directed the Pentagon to proceed with contingency planning to ensure, as a Defense Department statement said, that plans are in place to accomplish an orderly withdrawal by the end of the year. |
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Yeah, telegraph your plans to the enemy. Obama and Hagel are military geniuses.
It's what you get with a community organizer for president and a Spec 4 for a lap dog secretary of defense. |
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While you're at it, tell us all who you would choose for your Presidential cabinet. |
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So up to now the US desire to depart the Afhgan theatre was a military secret?
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It should have been. Telling the time of departure is military idiocy.
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Should've left after the CIA and SF deposed the Taliban. If they f**ked-up again, go back in and clean it up again. Repeat.
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I could have gone along with that. Beats the wimpy and stupid act of handing over the play book, which has been going on since the focus was moved from Iraq to Afghanistan.
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After 13 years I question if the war made any really long term difference....except for Halliburton and other military contractors.
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Early on I thought NATO could do the nation-building thing -- the best possible outcome. I was wrong. In either case the Taliban had to be punished for their complicity in 9/11. Like Al Qeada, some folks just need killing. |
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A lot of people are dead and maimed. That is permanent. perhaps if we had put money into building the country up after we funded them beating the Russians we could have avoided all this.
See Charlie Wilson's war.
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The lesson learned is that the people must be so defeated that they totally abandon all hope of survival (Japan, Germany) to embrace any option other than a continuance of misery and ultimate annihilation. If given hope for an alternative other than the path selected by the victor, a large proportion will embrace it, no matter what it is. |
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Time to leave.
Bot is correct as well, you can't do nation building without first the utter destruction of the old nation, with a stone aged society that's fairly challenging.
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We may leave in 2014. We will be back in 17 or 18.
- Peter.
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Doubt it. Look at history, no one wants to go back to Afghanistan, besides the British and maybe some old hippie that did the Afghanistan thing in the seventies.
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Your comments reminded of a John Wayne line, "I never killed anyone who didn't need killin'." |
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