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JB3 09-02-2014 02:08 PM

Tweedledee and tweedledum are here removing this SOB.
Its about 90F with 100% humidity and they arrived 20 minutes ago yelling at eachother pissed off about a job this morning apparently.

First thing the guy does is tear off the asbestos without a mask and stuff it in a trash bag....
Now they are screaming at eachother about the plugged drain in the lower part of the furnace and it still being full of water.

P.C. 09-02-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3 (Post 3381190)
Tweedledee and tweedledum are here removing this SOB.
Its about 90F with 100% humidity and they arrived 20 minutes ago yelling at eachother pissed off about a job this morning apparently.

First thing the guy does is tear off the asbestos without a mask and stuff it in a trash bag....
Now they are screaming at eachother about the plugged drain in the lower part of the furnace and it still being full of water.

So they're leaving asbestos dust all over your basement? You're screwed, they're screwed, your tenants are screwed. Have you ever seen a professional asbestos removal? Great pains are taken to sequester the area to prevent the migration of asbestos dust into other areas.

JB3 09-02-2014 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C. (Post 3381257)
So they're leaving asbestos dust all over your basement? You're screwed, they're screwed, your tenants are screwed. Have you ever seen a professional asbestos removal? Great pains are taken to sequester the area to prevent the migration of asbestos dust into other areas.

Yup. And i specifically requested a legit removal from the plumbing contractor who subcontracted this part of the job to these guys. This will be involved.

Boiler weighs approx 1200 lbs. Watching them maneuver this out of the basement up a narrow staircase has been interesting

INSIDIOUS 09-02-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3 (Post 3381287)
Yup. And i specifically requested a legit removal from the plumbing contractor who subcontracted this part of the job to these guys. This will be involved.

Boiler weighs approx 1200 lbs. Watching them maneuver this out of the basement up a narrow staircase has been interesting

Staircase carved in bedrock?

t walgamuth 09-03-2014 06:11 AM

One could take a sprayer and soak the asbestos wearing a good breathing mask, then bag it and put it in the trash. Perfectly legal for you to do your own. I'd also rig a good blower to exhaust the area in question for a few days to blow out all the particles. Then I'd go to bed and sleep like a baby.

Or you could hire a proper removal contractor and try to get the contractor to pay for it.

When we removed the 1.5 million btu boiler in my building basement after the asbestos removal contractor did his magic we simply took sledges and beat it into small enough bits to carry out....wearing eye protection.

JB3 09-03-2014 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS (Post 3381426)
Staircase carved in bedrock?

They broke it down some, but still had one 600ish lb piece that had to be moved. Stairs handled it, but they did crack two steps

JB3 09-03-2014 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3381475)
One could take a sprayer and soak the asbestos wearing a good breathing mask, then bag it and put it in the trash. Perfectly legal for you to do your own. I'd also rig a good blower to exhaust the area in question for a few days to blow out all the particles. Then I'd go to bed and sleep like a baby.

Or you could hire a proper removal contractor and try to get the contractor to pay for it.

When we removed the 1.5 million btu boiler in my building basement after the asbestos removal contractor did his magic we simply took sledges and beat it into small enough bits to carry out....wearing eye protection.

I think they did get it wet and soak it down. Maybe the removal was slightly more intelligent than i thought. Still cant believe these guys didnt even bother with masks. He did tell me he takes it to be properly disposed of, but im sure that was some BS because i was pissed off once i learned how they were doing this. (Was outside repairing the garage for the building)

Of course we had the standard cash vs check debate at the end as well. Drives me nuts how many times i have to have this same discussion as a small business owner with other small businesses looking for unreported income opportunities.

At least he had a good line-
"uncle sam? We aint ****** related"

barry12345 09-03-2014 09:33 AM

Too much hazard in trying to move a six hundred pound object out of a basement for two people. Maybe winching it up on a skid might be okay.

We once moved a similar weight with four of us. It may have even been heavier. Once we got on the outside porch I went through it. Fortunatly it was only a foot or so underneath so I managed to keep my corner up. Had it been further I might have landed up with all the weight on me.

JB3 09-03-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by barry12345 (Post 3381528)
Too much hazard in trying to move a six hundred pound object out of a basement for two people. Maybe winching it up on a skid might be okay.

We once moved a similar weight with four of us. It may have even been heavier. Once we got on the outside porch I went through it. Fortunatly it was only a foot or so underneath so I managed to keep my corner up. Had it been further I might have landed up with all the weight on me.

Yikes!
its amazing what you can move with a big HD appliance dolly and a triple strapped object. They had more trouble negotiating the tight corner of the staircase than actually getting the thing up and over each step with some timber being used as a prybar. He alzo said they usually have 3 guys, but one guy flaked out for the day. Still, they never directly lifted anything. Despite the asbestos malarkey, these guys definitely know how to move heavy crapola.

Makes me consider a bulkhead entrance for this building. Things like a washer and dryer just barely fit down the width. Guys would have been done in 2 hours instead of 5.

They told me about another appliance dolly they managed to bend in a 45 degree trying to move a safe by hand. He said he gave up on that one.

t walgamuth 09-03-2014 11:45 AM

safes are heavy!

Mark DiSilvestro 09-03-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3 (Post 3381190)
Tweedledee and tweedledum are here removing this SOB.
Its about 90F with 100% humidity and they arrived 20 minutes ago yelling at eachother pissed off about a job this morning apparently.

First thing the guy does is tear off the asbestos without a mask and stuff it in a trash bag....
Now they are screaming at eachother about the plugged drain in the lower part of the furnace and it still being full of water.

Well, so long as he didn't inhale...!

Happy Motoring, Mark

BAVBMW 09-03-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 3381584)
safes are heavy!

I always remove at least the bullion before I try to move any of mine. Coins also if Ihave to go up or down stairs.

MV


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