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Old 03-03-2014, 08:48 PM
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Poisoning people and calling the poison food is not excusable, sorry. If people knew what they were getting they probably wouldn't. Marketing poison to children is doubly inexcusable. Exploiting addiction as a marketing tool is again, inexcusable.

Let me guess. You were going to say everything in moderation but someone else already said it, right?
Tomorrow I'm going to go to McDonalds in my big old American truck, and order a burger with a gallon of diet coke and put it on my credit card.


Just to burn people like you.

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Old 03-03-2014, 08:55 PM
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I have no issues with the customers. I wish they were smarter because the whole safety in numbers thing doesn't work with self destructive people around.

No burn on me. In fact, I benefit from self destructive people. Doesn't mean I have to like it or like people who prey on people's inherent weaknesses.

Corporations are people too. If we were all a bunch of farmers, living in semi primitive conditions and a neighbor like McD moved to the valley we would all get together and lynch them. We would have to, just survival.

google fast food toxic
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:03 PM
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If we all lived in pastoral tranquility the chances are your neighbors wouldn't give a crap. Busy-bodies multiply with population density, of which government is the most obvious.
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:16 PM
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Is 'advanced sophist' an oxymoron? Let's have a beer and talk about it!
Well, maybe in moderation. No hemlock with mine, please.
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:20 PM
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:12 AM
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I hear this way too much and can't remember the last time there was any cause to agree with it. Nothing personal but it has to be the dumbest cliche uttered. Let's see, death in moderation, disease in moderation, poison in moderation...

Actually this expression comes from the Greek herbalists and " doctors." NOBODY really knew much about medicine so they hedged their bets. If you took good stuff and bad stuff each in moderation, they figured you had the best chance of living because you didn't take more bad stuff than good stuff.

I am just giving the history, I didn't say it was the way to live.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:45 AM
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Actually this expression comes from the Greek herbalists and " doctors." NOBODY really knew much about medicine so they hedged their bets. If you took good stuff and bad stuff each in moderation, they figured you had the best chance of living because you didn't take more bad stuff than good stuff.

I am just giving the history, I didn't say it was the way to live.
Talking about herbs it might be somewhat valid. Talking about the myriad of chemicals in the modern world it can't hold water. Modern technology blurs the line between food and pharmacology. Really, it melds pharmacology and food.

Today everyday decisions, like "what to eat", are really decisions less about how you live and more decisions about how you are going to die - when you choose industrialized food.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:54 AM
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I hear this way too much and can't remember the last time there was any cause to agree with it. Nothing personal but it has to be the dumbest cliche uttered. Let's see, death in moderation, disease in moderation, poison in moderation...
Of your three examples . . .

death: Ever hear of "la petite mort?" look it up
disease: It's actually part of nature's system for evolution and increased resistance to disease.
poison: name your own

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Flour, sweeteners and vegetable oil are gateway chemicals that lead you to a lifetime of pharmaceuticals. Industrialized animal fats are laden with the chemicals fed and given to the animals.

Many of these "foods" are industrial waste products.

These things aren't easy to avoid and that is why the resulting problems are epidemic.

The idea that they "reformed" healthcare in this country while they are still allowing these practices to continue makes many of the most egregious crimes against humanity look like warm-up exercises.
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Of your three examples . . .

death: Ever hear of "la petite mort?" look it up
disease: It's actually part of nature's system for evolution and increased resistance to disease.
poison: name your own

Have heard of the first one, irrelevant.

Second is my point. We are modifying evolution to allow for better garbage eaters.

If you could name your own that would be great but the problem remains that you cannot avoid the rest.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:14 AM
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The idea that they "reformed" healthcare in this country while they are still allowing these practices to continue makes many of the most egregious crimes against humanity look like warm-up exercises.
It's "sick care"
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:19 AM
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… and the donuts kind of suck.
Dunno about that. I gift their doughnuts by the dozens to clients and vendors. No one has ever complained and i get some pretty nice favors in return. KK makes good coffee too. OTOH, I only have about 2 doughnuts a year personally as they have too much sugar for my old man diet.
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These are the 16 Southern chains the rest of the country needs - Thrillist Nation

In the South, chains are about fried chicken, biscuits, tacos, burgers, and addiction. And until these ones expand, they're the reason Southern expats are burning millions of gallons of gas on drive-thru pilgrimages.

Well, maybe . . . I am a sucker for a good biscuit.
You have a good point on drive thru's and gas. If we were serious about gas usage and obesity, close drive thrus and get some exercise walking to the counter.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:34 AM
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I ate at a Quiznos a couple of times, pretty good stuff. Heard an article on NPR a while back about how Q. franchise holders were pissed at the main hq. Apparently had to buy supplies from hq only at marked up prices. I just read that the company is filing for bankruptcy.

I can imagine there are plenty of sad stories of franchise holders who sunk years of their life into one of these, not to mention a 5 to 6 figure grubstake, and came up empty. Like the Sonic place in WI. The company may have felt very little pain on that one.
I was looking at buying a couple of the Quiznos franchise locations. IIRC they were about $70K a pop + facilities. I didn’t like some of the contract requirements, plus they didn’t market the product effectively (imo). This was about 4 years ago and I haven’t looked back, but they compete with Subway and other fast food but offer mostly much more healthy selections.

Their idea is an excellent one. Unfortunately a big part of success in fast food is branding as people are overwhelming xenophobes when it comes to most things. That sets up the opportunity for a franchise owner to be over-reaching. McDonalds uses about the same model except they are way more $pendy to acquire a franchise.
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To own a franchise you are really just a host of the party ,their to meet and greet customers ,yes you profit from your hard work (when successful) ,but to really see behind the curtain lets take a look at what your buying.You are sold on how successful the franchise is by its percentage of failure rate ,if 95% is the rating you also have to look at why that is so high ,its due to a buyout clause in the contract if you fail,the location is then taken in to the corporations hands thus still not considered a failure ,its really a gauranteed success for the corporation because they have a say in where you locate the restuarant etc,etc,.and thats the hook and drive of your main investment .Here is the other side of the coin ,lets say you are successful ,the corporation likes this even more ,you are then hooked to sell their product with your profit set by volume ,you are still just a middleman for the rest of your ownership.Your sold on how successful they are by a percentage rating as their pitch ,then your sold their food product mandatorally at their price $$$$$ ,you then pay the rent out of your profit ,your a corporate man at this point, a contracted owner their to meet and greet.

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