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macdoe · #**151** 03-13-2014, 01:35 AM

In looking at some of this free trade stuff, it seems each could have different addendums attached and current agreenents do.
This would be easy.
My addendums= No minimum wagey...no do buisness with you...cause it is against international trade law.

macdoe · #**152** 03-13-2014, 01:43 AM

By the time the junk is shipped over here with similar minimum wage establishment, it would be more equal a playing field...now enter Aklim's Darwinism. We could make various quality stuff too and still compete.

John Galt · #**153** 03-13-2014, 01:51 AM

@ macdoe "So is the government serving a few or the majority. Has the priority shifted it's role to be looking out for big buisness rather than the majority of it's citizens."

yes, it's called crony capitalism.

China gets away with it because they own a big chunk of America's debt. America is China's "B i t c h"
When China says jump, America says "how high".

China plays chess, America plays checkers, badly.

America -- Once they were Warriors, now they're Slaves to the globalized marketplace.

Canada is a little better off. There's a lot of wealthy Chinese living in Hongcouver, and Canada has resources China needs. As well Canada is not in debt to China like America is. Another factor is the mutual respect between Canada and China, whereas they have little more than disdain for America's 'leadership'.

aklim · #**154** 03-13-2014, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by macdoe

in favour of more profit for the buisness..

I have not found out who's idea it was yet

Does'nt our country go to war with other countries and use fighting for their right to live free of oppression as an excuse to do so....but yet certain people are allowed to do buisness with the oppressor because it makes them richer...that seems a little hipocritical.... speaking of which? It's kind of like being in cahoots with a friend that owns one big pile of well, trained and disciplined slaves...

It somehow seems we have traded some heritage left behind by some important creators all in the name of money and competition.

I forgot about the fact that China does'nt seem to have to follow environmental laws either? Is this what is meant by a whiping boy? Do you mean China is our whiping boy, or the lower class Chinese people?

So, if this is the common way of doing buisness whats to stop all buisness people from shifting all jobs to China? If that is what the competitor is doing is the next guy bound to it to survive. How can we do it better if better does'nt matter anyways cause it is really all about cost ?

Maybe that's the point.... are we living out Darwin's theory as suggested?

So is the government serving a few or the majority. Has the priority shifted it's role to be looking out for big buisness rather than the majority of it's citizens. Is that the role of free trade agreements, do they violate laws?

There is a world trade organization that regulates import/export of steel among other raw materials according to laws that these free trade agreements are suppossed to follow and, I think it even mentions along the lines of things in place to protect jobs, and certain amounts to be imported/exported. Suppose that is a matter of interpretation when compared to the rest of the world and jobs per capita or something?

That is what a business does. Make profit.

Does it matter? I proposed a bad idea, 3 of us agree. Are you any less guilty because you listened and agree?

Governments and people say many things, believe in few of them and do even fewer. Why is that a surprise to you?

Heritage doesn't buy food. You can't eat heritage. I can spend money.

I meant that in the past, Japan was blamed for our ills. Now it is China.

Well, nothing at all except for the simple fact that we have the ability to try to find something that they cannot do instead of banging on the same dead horse.

Yes, we are failing to adapt so we are failing.

It can't do the impossible. It cannot turn back the tide.

We all try to skirt the law

aklim · #**155** 03-13-2014, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by macdoe

The only difference is cost to produce and we can't compete with Chinese cost cause their government if operating over here where the product is sold would be violating our laws in its production.... otherwise this buisness that you say should'nt exist went under cause the competition was able to obtain cheaper goods by not following this country's labour laws.

Why should a company that chooses to produce things legally be said to not be allowed existence. Seems like it should be the other way around.

Why must we compete in this field? Give it up and find something else we can do instead of hanging on trying to use old paradigms in a new world.

We put the laws to try hem nature in. Remember, the rest of the world doesn't care.

aklim · #**156** 03-13-2014, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by macdoe

By the time the junk is shipped over here with similar minimum wage establishment, it would be more equal a playing field...now enter Aklim's Darwinism. We could make various quality stuff too and still compete.

Why should you get to decide my minimum wage?