Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 03-11-2014, 10:04 AM
A Talent for Obfuscation
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: In the Deep State
Posts: 17,029
Quote:
Originally Posted by Air&Road View Post
Who said that it was all the proof you ever need? I missed that. What I DID point out, however, is one more simple indication of the media's obvious (to anyone except the left wing zealots) common left wing bias and dishonest promotion of their own agenda.

For someone on the left wing tip themselves, the left wing tip appears to them to be the middle of the airplane.
And on which part of the plane do you reside?

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-11-2014, 10:10 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 18,350
Quote:
Originally Posted by Air&Road View Post

I want THE FACTS with no editorial spin or withholding of information. I also want everyone else to have ONLY THE FACTS, so that they too can draw their own conclusion rather than being led around by a nose ring.

"Just the facts Ma'am."
Totally impossible. In any given minute of history there are an almost infinite number of facts that could be asserted about what is the case. by the time I finish typing this response millions of events will have happened around the globe. It would be impossible for a single person to know them let alone assert them. Any decision to choose some facts out of that infinite set involves a point of view.
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-11-2014, 10:23 AM
Kuan's Avatar
unband
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: At the Birkebeiner
Posts: 3,841
Liberal bias is not a fact. She perceives liberal bias.
__________________
You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows - Robert A. Zimmerman
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-11-2014, 10:52 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Sharing my mother's basement with several liberals who can't hold a job.
Posts: 33,010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honus View Post
So what's a network to do if one of its journalists fixates on a story that advances that journalist's personal agenda at the expense of other important news, as was suggested about Attkisson? You have sided with Attkisson on that point. What's your basis for drawing that conclusion?
How many stories have CBS and NBC and others looked the other way on before it hit the fan and got coverage on Fox and other channels?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-11-2014, 10:55 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,292
Quote:
Originally Posted by Air&Road View Post
I haven't sided with her. I simply used her statement to make a point and to start a thread.
I misunderstood. Sorry about that.
Quote:
That said, to answer your question, what's a network to do? An honest network, that truly wanted to report the facts instead of promote an agenda ( not that any such network exists) should fire such a journalists ass. This would NOT happen today, unless the hypothetical journalist were not promoting the networks agenda.
I think that's right, though the agenda is more likely to be financial, not political.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 03-11-2014, 10:56 AM
Jim B.'s Avatar
Who's flying this thing ?
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: N. California./ N. Nevada
Posts: 3,611
Quote:
Originally Posted by Air&Road View Post
Sharyl Attkisson resigns from CBS saying that she can no longer deal with their liberal bias.

No, there's no liberal bias in the mainstream media.
Yeah right.

*ESPECIALLY* not in Fox News and the AM radio talk shows such as Hannity, Limbaugh etc.
__________________
1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-11-2014, 10:56 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,292
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dudesky View Post
How many stories have CBS and NBC and others looked the other way on before it hit the fan and got coverage on Fox and other channels?
Many. And vice versa.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-11-2014, 11:02 AM
A Talent for Obfuscation
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: In the Deep State
Posts: 17,029
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuan View Post
Liberal bias is not a fact. She perceives liberal bias.
She perceives a new career at Fox News and is priming the media pump for her big announcement.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-11-2014, 11:04 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Sharing my mother's basement with several liberals who can't hold a job.
Posts: 33,010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honus View Post
Many. And vice versa.
I think more to the liberal side.....especially when their boy is in office.

When their boy isn't, its an all out field day on the right, more so than the other way around.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 03-11-2014, 11:19 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 7,381
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerry View Post
Totally impossible. In any given minute of history there are an almost infinite number of facts that could be asserted about what is the case. by the time I finish typing this response millions of events will have happened around the globe. It would be impossible for a single person to know them let alone assert them. Any decision to choose some facts out of that infinite set involves a point of view.
True, however a great percentage of those facts have little to do with the lives of the audience and thus are ignored unless the audience somehow seems to favor listening to some particular type of "facts". It does seem possible to relay important information about any happening or incident without thinking of the political implications. The news reports about the missing B777 in Malaysia seems to be pretty free of personal/political bias from what I've seen on most networks. Other incidents which will eventually (be it a short time or long time) have great political implications could be reported in such manner. I don't think that's a difficult task.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 03-11-2014, 11:22 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,292
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dudesky View Post
I think more to the liberal side.....especially when their boy is in office.

When their boy isn't, its an all out field day on the right, more so than the other way around.
One difference is that Fox stays over to the right. Other big-time corporate media go back and forth, depending on whatever is in fashion at the time. It is interesting, though, that NBC has gone reliably Republican with David Gregory's "Meet the Press." He's completely sold out, which I didn't see coming.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 03-11-2014, 12:05 PM
MTI's Avatar
MTI MTI is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 10,626
The confusion in this thread is that it's caption "No Liberal Bias in the Media?" At first I assumed it was by MSFowler, but quickly noticed the author. In numerous threads, we've gone over the fact, and without substantial disagreement, that all media, has and will be biased since it is a human endeavor. Not only that, but it is a commercial enterprise as well, and we live in an age of "news-a-tainment" where the lines of news and editorial are blurred beyond recognition. I would suggest watching a few episodes of HBO's "The Newsroom" but I would anticipate that an early initial response that it was created by Aaron Sorkin, of a known political persuasion.

Honestly, when was the last time there was ever a statement that there was "no liberal bias in the media?"
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 03-11-2014, 12:18 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Sharing my mother's basement with several liberals who can't hold a job.
Posts: 33,010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honus View Post
One difference is that Fox stays over to the right. Other big-time corporate media go back and forth, depending on whatever is in fashion at the time. It is interesting, though, that NBC has gone reliably Republican with David Gregory's "Meet the Press." He's completely sold out, which I didn't see coming.
Fox goes left more often than one realizes.

Gregory goes Rep? All I see him doing is getting GOP wonks on and trying to get them answer questions which they'd be nuts answering in the first place.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 03-11-2014, 12:18 PM
JB3 JB3 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: RI
Posts: 7,246
geez, another one of these water is wet and im mad as hell about it threads.

If someone can find an NON biased news source on any subject, id be amazed. Bias is a fact of life, and its nothing new.
__________________
This post brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 03-11-2014, 01:37 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,292
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dudesky View Post
Fox goes left more often than one realizes.
Could be. I tune in to see Hannity and Fox & Friends, just for the freak show. They don't have no lefties on those shows.
Quote:
Gregory goes Rep? All I see him doing is getting GOP wonks on and trying to get them answer questions which they'd be nuts answering in the first place.
Right. Republicans dominate his show (or at least they did last time I checked). For years, John McCain was on the show so often that he might as well have been listed as a co-host. I have not kept up to date on MTP, so maybe they finally had their fill of him.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page