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New F1 V-6 Sounds Bad
I watched FP1 from Australia last night. I was not pleased with the sound. Granted I've heard many other vehicles sound worse (MotoGP anyone?), but I think this is the worst F1 cars have sounded in my lifetime. A sample:
F1 2014 First Onboard Lap | Red Bull RB10 | V6 Turbo Sound | Ricciardo @ Albert Park - 14.03.2014 - YouTube Compare to last year's naturally aspirated 2.4 L V-8: Kimi Raikkonen Onboard Lap - Australian GP FP2 - 2013 - YouTube Some of the technical changes they've made are interesting to me as an engineer and mechanic, but I've had farts that sounded better than the new cars.
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I hate how F1 has become so crazy with their regulations. I appreciate that they are trying to make things more exciting and even, but I feel like a no-holds-barred approach is more exciting from a technical standpoint. No doubt these engines are technical wonders, but its almost prohibitive for new fans to get involved with it-- such is the beauty of nascar. No DRS zones, no KERS, no exhaust blown diffusers, etc.
Also, agreed on the sound, though I think its splitting hairs, nothing beats the NA V10/V12s of the late 90s IMO.
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Also the first vid you posted, the sound quality is deplorable.
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It certainly does not sound as great as a v12 at song. What rpm are the v6's turning? Sounded low.
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My Buick sounds better.
That V8 is something, though!
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V6's with 90 deg. cylinder banks will always sound odd to me because of the 540 degrees of crank revolution for the entire engine to complete a cycle. You can hear this clearly listening to a Chevy 4.3 V6 versus the older 2.8 V6.
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Boy, do I miss the Cosworth Ford DFV V-8.
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They go up to 15,000 but for some reason they sound like they're doing a lot less.
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Half the exhaust pulses for a given RPM than the V12... V12 sounds "busier".
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Dont they utilise a staggered crank to even out the firing.
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Imagine, Mercedes and Red Bull Renault each had a car drop out in the initial segment of the race due to engine issues at the Australian GP this weekend. Looks like these hybrid turbo cars need a lot more sorting.
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True, they do but it still seems like their trying to go against the laws of nature,,,
And they still sound weird and feel rough.
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That would not be needed if a 60 degree v.
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