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Old 03-17-2014, 07:40 PM
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Setting up a new computer really that easy these days?

The last time I got a new computer 6 or 8 years ago it seemed like a real struggle and had to get my sister to even come help me, LOL.
I am getting off my old one (yes Andrew i know you could have built me a much better one). Mainly because of the XP thing. So I already have the new tower (8.1) and will be setting it up in a few weeks (painting the room the computer is in and waiting for new monitor to arrive).
I have bought a "Plugable" easy transfer cable which includes Easy Computer Synch software. That gets downloaded on to the XP computer and the 8.1 (new one) computer. So that should fix my up on getting music and pics on to the new computer.
So to back up a little, what will I need to do just to get the new one operating so I can download the software? I am happy enough using Outlook Express, the last time it seemed like a lot of hassle was prevented because my ISP had a CD which took care of everything except (IIRC)adding in my email address and password, so my email is downloaded more or less automatically. After that is when I feel I am "online" and can go to IE which takes me to my homepage. All pretty easy but getting the new one to do all this again is a little befuddling to me. ISP says they don't have those CDs like that anymore. Have things progressed to the point where really not much has to be done to get the new one to do all these complex things for me?

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Old 03-17-2014, 07:47 PM
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New Windows machines are simple as pie. The most user friendly computers ever made. Your monitor will practically plug itself in and the computer will recognize ALL your old programs and instantly find all your files, photos, music, everything and organize them so they're right at your fingertips. After that it'll make you a cocktail and rub your feet. It's true. I read it. Someplace.
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Old 03-17-2014, 07:59 PM
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New Windows machines are simple as pie. The most user friendly computers ever made. Your monitor will practically plug itself in and the computer will recognize ALL your old programs and instantly find all your files, photos, music, everything and organize them so they're right at your fingertips. After that it'll make you a cocktail and rub your feet. It's true. I read it. Someplace.
On the internet, I'll bet. That makes it true by definition.
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:56 PM
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New Windows machines are simple as pie. The most user friendly computers ever made. Your monitor will practically plug itself in and the computer will recognize ALL your old programs and instantly find all your files, photos, music, everything and organize them so they're right at your fingertips. After that it'll make you a cocktail and rub your feet. It's true. I read it. Someplace.
If it could be tricked into reinstalling every half hour that would be a fine deal
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Old 03-17-2014, 09:32 PM
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It was never really that hard.

If both computers have network access, I'd save the money for the network cable and just turn file sharing on the XP box on, copying files over WiFi. As far as mail, Windows 8 no longer has Outlook Express, but has the Mail applet (or for a more desktop-oriented experience, you can download Thunderbird). Either way, setup may be pretty much automatic if you know the email address and password. If it isn't, you can get the relevant settings from your Internet provider.

Or you can just move to your Internet provider's webmail and/or gmail like all of the cool kids. Though I still prefer dedicated email software to webmail, personally...

Lastly, for a tower/desktop, I'd STRONGLY prefer Windows 7 over Windows 8/8.1. The full-screen start menu and Metro(sexual) apps are pointless on a large desktop monitor. You can still order pre-built Windows 7 machines from Dell via their small-business web site, or from other makers like Asus.
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Old 03-18-2014, 05:02 AM
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Thanks. Well the tower is already here and I read (on the internet!) that 8.1 is the way to go, at least compared to 8. I'm not all that computer savvy, once it is set up I am good, and can handle minor problems, but setup is a bit of a challenge so that's why I'm asking.
I also like having the dedicated email software but don't really know why. I also have a gmail acct and also a yahoo acct. Didn't know outlook express was history, oh boy....
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:01 AM
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Thanks. Well the tower is already here and I read (on the internet!) that 8.1 is the way to go, at least compared to 8. I'm not all that computer savvy, once it is set up I am good, and can handle minor problems, but setup is a bit of a challenge so that's why I'm asking.
I also like having the dedicated email software but don't really know why. I also have a gmail acct and also a yahoo acct. Didn't know outlook express was history, oh boy....
Just use thunderbird and add your gmail and yahoo accounts and you'll have an "outlook esque" mail client
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:06 AM
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:34 AM
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Just yank the hard drive from the old machine and put in the new one, presto...everything has been migrated.
Just don't boot from it. Unless you want to revisit XP...
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:55 AM
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Old 03-18-2014, 02:08 PM
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Just get an external hard disk to transfer your files with. You should have a backup anyway. And a backup to that backup. On XP most of your stuff will be in "documents and settings" and you will find your user folder in there. From there you can just copy and paste. Dont bother trying to transfer your programs over, get your docs/photos/etc.

Not sure with outlook express, but full outlook has a .pst file that will save all your emails/folders/calendars etc. This will be in appdata... which you will have to unhide and make visible. Might be a moot point since there is no outlook express for windows 8 anyway. You might be stuck using that mail app on the start screen.

8.1 isn't bad, you can set your PC to just boot to desktop instead of the tablet style interface.
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Just get an external hard disk to transfer your files with. You should have a backup anyway. And a backup to that backup. On XP most of your stuff will be in "documents and settings" and you will find your user folder in there. From there you can just copy and paste. Dont bother trying to transfer your programs over, get your docs/photos/etc.

Not sure with outlook express, but full outlook has a .pst file that will save all your emails/folders/calendars etc. This will be in appdata... which you will have to unhide and make visible. Might be a moot point since there is no outlook express for windows 8 anyway. You might be stuck using that mail app on the start screen.

8.1 isn't bad, you can set your PC to just boot to desktop instead of the tablet style interface.
8.1 is still crap on a desktop, since you still are stuck with "Metrosexual" craplets that can't be run in windows, and a full-screen bag of fail that replaces your start menu. Fortunately, fixable with ModernMix and Start8.

Outlook Express doesn't use .psts. I think it used .dbx files that can be converted to .mbox files readable with Thunderbird fairly easily. I'd go with Thunderbird over the built-in mail craplet. It's free.

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