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Old 04-03-2014, 12:35 PM
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Another head scratcher

FBI seizes thousands of artifacts from rural Ind. home
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WALDRON, Ind. — FBI agents Wednesday seized "thousands" of cultural artifacts, including American Indian items, from the private collection of a 91-year-old man who had acquired them over the past eight decades.
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The aim of the investigation is to determine what each artifact is, where it came from and how Miller obtained it, Jones said, to determine whether some of the items might be illegal to possess privately. Jones acknowledged that Miller might have acquired some of the items before the passage of U.S. laws or treaties prohibited their sale or purchase.
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The FBI and its partners might have a daunting task determining the origins and provenance of all of the items, Thom predicted. "It may be 30 years — or never — before they have it all cataloged."
So the guy won't be around to see the results of this "investigation". Keep in mind, the guy has not been arrested nor charged with anything, they just came in to investigate and confiscate??? What am I missing here?

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Old 04-03-2014, 12:51 PM
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Does seem harsh.
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:08 PM
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Try publicly showing your collection of raptor feathers.
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:24 PM
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I read that in the morning paper and found it extremely unusual. It seems possible that the old gent was not treated correctly on first glance.
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:12 PM
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Try publicly showing your collection of raptor feathers.
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:29 PM
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Seems like excessive enforcement, or some "real" museum wants something he has and he won't give it up. Follow the money.
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Old 04-03-2014, 03:26 PM
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Try publicly showing your collection of raptor feathers.
Like the ones from my hunting falcons?
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Old 04-03-2014, 06:11 PM
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Got a permit for that?
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Old 04-03-2014, 06:48 PM
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Got a permit for that?
That is what the law requires, as well as a hunting license if you want to use it. So then, are you OK with my feather display?
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:16 PM
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The antiquities act and other laws on repatriation of pot-hunted items is pretty broad and can ruin you. Pun intended.

I have a fairly large ruin on my grazing allotment. I'm the state site steward for it. State paid to completely fence it. It's remote and was pothunted over the years back in the 60s. There's a big difference between picking up arrowheads and trashing the walls of an 800 year old village looking for intact pots worth thousands of dollars. Not an innocent hobby by a long shot. Until the antiquities act, it was a career path in these parts.
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:57 PM
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That is what the law requires, as well as a hunting license if you want to use it. So then, are you OK with my feather display?
Only if you have a permit for your feather display. Doesn't matter where they come from. Even your own permitted bird. Or road kill. Or natural molt. Even if you're using the roadkill feathers for trout flies.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:37 PM
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Seems like excessive enforcement, or some "real" museum wants something he has and he won't give it up. Follow the money.
Does the guy have kids? Kids that found out he was not leaving the collection to them?
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:55 PM
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I'll take my chances
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Old 04-04-2014, 02:34 PM
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Looks like a good takings case.

BTW the FBI has way to much money, look at those trucks.
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Old 04-04-2014, 03:15 PM
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I wonder what the warrant looked like? Maybe: We think the 91 year old guy has lots of all kinds of stuff, not sure exactly what it all is or if any of it is legal or not, but we want to go grab it all up and check it out for about 30 years and see if there is anything in there which might technically be prohibited.

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