I laugh at them when they yell slogans, but often I forget that they are actually serious about their message.

Kansas City area Jewish center shootings suspect Frazier Glenn Miller; who is the man with 2 names? - CBS News

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Got to love that he chose the 3rd most common Jewish name in the US (Miller) as his alias. Hope he rots in prison for the rest of his sorry life.

scumbag....

How much of hate speech is free speech and when does free speech become an actual threat?

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Free speech rights, as discussed before, are not absolute. For instance, one can peacefully call for revolution, but most states have laws against speech that incites a riot. One of the elements of those laws is that there must actually be violence resulting and that there was a high probability that the calls to riot would actually result in violence.

We need to outlaw hate.

Not a question of speech here -- this guy actually acted, AND was one of the ringleaders before. No question of incitement.

Man, people need to get a life!

Hating is not living.

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I am very reluctant to place limits on any types of speech. I am not sure I am comfortable with the incitement concept because I think it helps people limit their responsibility at least in their own mind. I do not know that I care who told you to do anything. You chose to do it, own it. If I take advantage of someone who is mentally challenged or something then I get it.

I am also not sure why a hate crime determination should have any bearing on a murder. Dead is dead. There are situations where a determination of hate is warranted in my opinion, but this sure as heck is not one of them. My life is not worth any more or less than anyone else just due to my religion, gender or race, at least not where murder is concerned. \

As mentioned above, he can say what he wants, acting on it is a whole different matter.

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At the Nuremberg Trials, the one person convicted of propaganda war crimes was Julius Strichter whose conviction was based on his written calls for Jewish genocide. The other propagandist, William Fritsche was acquitted.

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Nuremberg is irrelevant since it was a court that wasn't subject to US Constitutional law in any meaningful sense. Streicher was also a government/party organ that actually gave orders.

Isn't intolerance of hatred itself a hate crime?

I hate tolerance of hate.

He was convicted for his propaganda role, not his role in giving orders. I never said it was relevant to the US Constitution.

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1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13