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Old 05-17-2014, 05:38 PM
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Marine One. New replacement in 2018

Out with the old.



In with the new.



Seems about time to me. The current one has been in service it seems for ages. According to one article I read, some of the birds are close to 30 years old.

Sikorsky S-92

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Old 05-17-2014, 05:58 PM
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is this obamas new vacation rig or is it for heading to the putting green?
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is this obamas new vacation rig or is it for heading to the putting green?
Were you planning to vote for Obama in 2016?
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Were you planning to vote for Obama in 2016?
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Were you planning to vote for Obama in 2016?



Alot of people do think he will seek a 3rd term
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Old 05-17-2014, 07:36 PM
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is this obamas new vacation rig or is it for heading to the putting green?
Psssssttttttt. There is something happening in 2016 that would preclude him from flying them in 2018 unless of course Michelle runs for office and wins. OH crap, may be I should not have mentioned that.
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Way to ruin the surprise, Biden.
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Old 05-17-2014, 09:34 PM
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Both birds are duds but whatever, the contract will probably be canceled shortly anyway...again.
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is this obamas new vacation rig or is it for heading to the putting green?
Did you know that the very first Presidential Helo was developed for Eisenhower? He had requested one to take him to his vacation home and to the golf course. That was in 1957.

And he did not like what he received, so a year later a new one with an onboard restroom and A/C was purchased.

The old Marine One was OK until G. W. Bush showed up and he was not impressed. So a new one was ordered and $6,100,000,000 was allocated by Congress to build a fleet of them. By the time Bush left office the bill was up to $11,000,000,000 and still not one had been delivered or even started. Obama was handed a estimate of $13,000,000,000 in 2009 and pulled the plug on the whole show.

The current Marine One and all of its' back-ups are custom versions of an existing ship. Development started about nine months ago with an off the lot stripper model and the Secret Service customized it to meet their, and not the President's, demands.

Oh, and the answer to your original question is: Yes, among other things.
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Old 05-19-2014, 07:46 AM
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It had to be Bush's fault.
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is this obamas new vacation rig or is it for heading to the putting green?
Just for some information:

Bush took over 1,000 days of vacation during his 8 year presidency. Over 100 days a year.

In comparison, Obama has taken less than 22 days a year on average.

The only president to date to take less vacation time than Obama was Clinton.

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Old 05-19-2014, 09:41 AM
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Given the stress of the job and the fact that the White House travels with the POTUS where ever they go it's I do not begrudge them the 'vacations'.
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:49 AM
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Just for some information:

Bush took over 1,000 days of vacation during his 8 year presidency. Over 100 days a year.

In comparison, Obama has taken less than 22 days a year on average.

The only president to date to take less vacation time than Obama was Clinton.

Yeaaaah.
Are you suggesting Bush was lazy?
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Did you know that the very first Presidential Helo was developed for Eisenhower? He had requested one to take him to his vacation home and to the golf course. That was in 1957.

And he did not like what he received, so a year later a new one with an onboard restroom and A/C was purchased.

The old Marine One was OK until G. W. Bush showed up and he was not impressed. So a new one was ordered and $6,100,000,000 was allocated by Congress to build a fleet of them. By the time Bush left office the bill was up to $11,000,000,000 and still not one had been delivered or even started. Obama was handed a estimate of $13,000,000,000 in 2009 and pulled the plug on the whole show.

The current Marine One and all of its' back-ups are custom versions of an existing ship. Development started about nine months ago with an off the lot stripper model and the Secret Service customized it to meet their, and not the President's, demands.

Oh, and the answer to your original question is: Yes, among other things.

The pulled the plug on the contract because Agusta got it and took on Lockheed Martin to make their bird seem "American Made" even though it was 100% Italian and better than the S92. So they yanked the contract I beleive this was in 2009.

Just because Congress appropriates money doesn't mean it was spent.

Now that the Italians are gone the contract went back to Sikorsky. Having said that the S92 is an aging aircraft and if anything happens with the contract its anyone's guess. Marine One seems to be a very low budgetary priority and their is no reason they can't be kept in the air for another decade or so.
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Just for some information:

Bush took over 1,000 days of vacation during his 8 year presidency. Over 100 days a year.

In comparison, Obama has taken less than 22 days a year on average.

The only president to date to take less vacation time than Obama was Clinton.

Yeaaaah.
The world would be a better place if Obama would take 365 days of vacation each year.

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