I think it's clear that broad racist repression has existed in out nation and still does to a lesser extent, but yes, I agree with you here. Falling back on that as an automatic excuse is not good, not good at all.

It's ironic that the OP is actually embracing the worst sort of 'crying racism,' a la 'crying wolf.' Imagine if a black did the same as he did, and a white realtor and a group of clients did not allow him to join the group because he had not yet formally become a client. His complaining that he had been excluded because he was black would be the sort of 'crying wolf' racism-accusing nonsense that whites, and I suspect the OP, complain about.

How is anyone sure outside of the person saying because you are X color? Much of racism claims today seem to be unsure except for the mind of the person who is slighted IMHO. Then it becomes a public opinion matter- no longer based in law. Exactly what we have here in this thread...

Sounds like you are saying that in order to claim racism prior racism must have been perpetrated against you.

How do you know he showed up at the door with a "big grin"? What's the difference between your postulate of his "big grin" and someone else postulating Trayvon Martin was X and looking for X?

Hey let's write out own story now shall we? Bottom line is any details that would have indicated this was any sort of racism was omitted in the op's tale.


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AFAIK, discrimination exists in all nations. I have seen discrimination among people of the SAME race. Discrimination, be it racism, sexism, different education level, different financial status, etc, etc is a fact of life. You want to argue that it is silly and wrong and harmful, etc, etc, go ahead. It never will change. It has been with us since the first few men were around and will be with us till the last few breath their last breath. I don't like it any more than you do but till we die out as a race, it will always be with us like the mythical Hydra. Cut of one head and two more will take it's place. Unlike the myth, there is no Hercules to kill it off.

You aren't until you can establish a pattern, show evidence beyond reasonable doubt or something more concrete than a "case" like this. For instance, how do I know you are a thief? Well, you are male and PROBABLY don't have a handbag (unless you are a cross dresser), therefore, when I saw you take something out of a handbag, it probably isn't your handbag, thus making you a thief.

Could it be you got permission? Could it be that it was your wife's or girlfriend or mistress whose bag you dipped into? IDK. Till I know, perhaps we can't be so sure you are a thief or a cross dresser.

Not everyone is going to want to be your friend. Some people like the company of their peers. I generally don't seek out the company of blacks because I don't have a lot in common with most of them in cultural matters, in my experience. People will sometimes want to keep you at arms length because they don't know what to make of you. In the situation of a realtor, where she will be in a closed house with someone she knows next to nothing about, declining to do business at a second's notice could be a lot of things other than racism.

I suggested the big grin as the OP sounded like he was enthusiastic about wanting to see the property. Showing up at the door, uninvited and unexpected sounds like 'big grin,' action. Sort of, 'hi, it's me, you lucky devils!'

Well yeah, as I've often said, people generally stick with their tribe in unfamiliar situations and racial distinctions are sort of high profile tribal separation markers.

I say 'in our nation' because we're discussing something that happened here. There is a small difference here as whites brought blacks over here against their will in large numbers and bred them to even larger numbers, and over generations pretty much eliminated the possibility they could realistically go back to where they came from.

It almost sounds like the OP was doing an in your face 'see what all these accusations of racism feel like, you crybabies?!' The error in that is that blacks actually did suffer large disenfranchisement after emancipation and were relegated to poverty for decades, arguably the worst in the southern states that started the process in motion. And that's to say nothing of a couple of hundred years of slavery,.

If that's what he was doing, it's weak because by aping what he thinks is going on, he gives existence and continuance to the worst aspects of interactions among different races. Definitely not the high road to take if one wishes for progress. Better to model correct behavior.

Is that why he took the job at band camp??

Don't know if he was getting a job or giving a job at band camp :D

Those are some big assumptions- and there is no way to confirm them. They are no better than folks thinking a black man will rob them because he's black- yet you consider your thoughts to be acceptable?

uhh,
decided to report it huh?

so, who did you decide to report it to joe,,

John whiley Price,,

er was it Domingo Garcia.......:D

how'd that turn out for you?

So what did the legal counsel say? How are those other options working out?

It's been over 8 months. Surly there is some news to report.

I'm his counsel. We are pursuing this to the fullest extent of the law.

Which is to say, we are doing nothing.

Note to self, don't call ^ when the chips are down :D