July 2, 1776.

The Passing of The Declaration of Independence - John Adams - HBO - YouTube

Politicians these days would have their jello spines fold under the weight of voting on actual life changing decisions and laws.

But back when proper statesmen roamed in the halls of Congress they did do some pretty good stuff.

Could you imagine modern day fact cat politicians standing up for their principles and risking everything they have to vote on something like this? I mean half of these guys had British Army units hunting down their families and friends and their business and assets were on their way to being seized.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj0ksH2oOnA

Its very easy to "stand" for something when all your counting is votes and dollars, and not British hangman's nooses, and lead shot.

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1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

Spent Independence Day at Mt. Vernon.

There are still men among us who would do the same thing if necessary. Women too, but they are not necessarily in congress. If we had an urgent hour of need these people would step forward and run if needed, I believe. Heroic times create heros from ordinary folks who did not know they had it in them. Do I? I don't know but I hope so.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Walgamuth in '16...!!!!

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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST

1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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Couldn't agree more Hattie....
The degradation of our society is nowhere as obvious as it is in our representatives.

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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST

1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

https://media.giphy.com/media/X3nnss8PAj5aU/giphy.gif

For goodness sakes, don't read the Declaration of Independence. Some things are too radical and best forgotten.

Thanks I think, but I'm too old to find out

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Paul Giamatti is such a great actor.

He was also fantastic in the movie Sideways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS9ocP6FNvM

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Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".

Watching this video of the voting, and hearing the Declaration of Independence being read is very moving.

My immigrant ancestor arrived in the Massachusetts colony in 1630.

When the Declaration of Independence was passed, my ancestors had already been in the American colony for 7 generations.

I have three direct ancestors who fought in the revolution: My 6th great grandfather and his son, who served in the New York state militia; and his grandson, who served in the Continental army.

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Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".

That is very cool that you know it.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I read it every July 4

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Invest in America: Buy a Congressman!

1950 170SD
1951 Citroen 11BN
1953 Citroen 11BNF limo
1953 220a project
1959 180D
1960 190D
1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr
1983 240D daily driver
1983 380SL
1990 350SDL daily driver alt
3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5
3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6

That's a great idea. I'm going to start doing it next year.

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Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".