Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help




Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-16-2014, 12:23 AM
cmac2012's Avatar
Renaissance Dude
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 15,471
Another guy improperly imprisoned in a jail

https://gma.yahoo.com/illinois-man-trapped-jail-31-hours-sues-trauma-163136560--abc-news-topstories.html

Quote:
An Illinois man who was accidentally imprisoned behind a jail's steel door for 31 hours is suing for negligence and trauma.

Farad Polk visited Cook County Jail, where his son is an inmate, on July 5. The guards told Polk to have a seat in a waiting area down the hall, Polk says.

When he entered the room – an area of the jail that was under renovation – the heavy, steel doors slammed behind him, turning the visitor into a prisoner.

For nearly a day and a half he says he tried anything to get someone’s attention. He screamed and pounded on the room’s 2-foot-thick walls, but nobody heard him.
Would be a tad surreal.
__________________
cmac

1986 300SDL, 315K
1987 BMW 325i, 440K
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-16-2014, 12:39 AM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Why not? It's free money WTF!! It is an accident.
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-16-2014, 01:23 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC
Posts: 5,102
The point is that he could have died or suffered severe organ damage (due to thirst) after a few more days had he not been found. This kind of negligence is inexcusable and should be punished.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-16-2014, 01:37 AM
cmac2012's Avatar
Renaissance Dude
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 15,471
Quote:
Originally Posted by aklim View Post
Why not? It's free money WTF!! It is an accident.
I don't normally go for suing the state on such things but this kind of stuff is weird. Guy could have died in there. Not sure how he broke the sprinkler off but absent that move, they might have found him from the stink about 8 days later.

That would be way weird to be entombed in a sound proof concrete chamber for 31 hours. Long enough to wonder if you're going to die in there.
__________________
cmac

1986 300SDL, 315K
1987 BMW 325i, 440K
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-16-2014, 03:32 AM
Can't Know's Avatar
Registered Slacker
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Sunny CA
Posts: 733
I never practiced criminal law, but had to visit a client to get some papers signed. Due to miscommunication, I was (accidentally) trapped on an elevator for about five minutes, and that was more than enough for me.

I'm not sure what the damages should be, but I'm not about to argue with the reality of a claim. After all, part of the point of a legal judgment is also to teach the defendant not to do it again.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-16-2014, 06:39 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 34,440
Yeah, I am not big on such lawsuits either but this one should go ahead.

I once visited a neighbor who had been jailed for something he should not have IMHO. It was pretty uncomfortable just visiting. When that steel door shuts it is pretty spooky.
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-16-2014, 07:26 AM
Posting since Jan 2000
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5,346
He'll get all the cooperation he needs from any politician he talks
To because he's not a GI. Ow if OTOH he were a member of the military on a trumped up charge, it would be a different story. He would be just left to rot.

Pretty sad when so many supposedly American officials loathe the military to that level.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-16-2014, 09:13 AM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by spdrun View Post
The point is that he could have died or suffered severe organ damage (due to thirst) after a few more days had he not been found. This kind of negligence is inexcusable and should be punished.
Was it done maliciously? It was an accident. I would not sure until I had some knowledge that someone purposely locked me up. Medical bills, sure.
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-16-2014, 09:16 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 34,440
Quote:
Originally Posted by Air&Road View Post
He'll get all the cooperation he needs from any politician he talks
To because he's not a GI. Ow if OTOH he were a member of the military on a trumped up charge, it would be a different story. He would be just left to rot.

Pretty sad when so many supposedly American officials loathe the military to that level.
This is just silly. Pols go out of their way to defer to vets. (nothing wrong with that).
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-16-2014, 09:18 AM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmac2012 View Post
I don't normally go for suing the state on such things but this kind of stuff is weird. Guy could have died in there. Not sure how he broke the sprinkler off but absent that move, they might have found him from the stink about 8 days later.

That would be way weird to be entombed in a sound proof concrete chamber for 31 hours. Long enough to wonder if you're going to die in there.
Definitely weird. If it was a prank going south, sure. At the first reading this it does sound like an accident where u said take a left and you took a right or I said left instead of right. I really don't like to penalize for innocent mistakes myself. Just lesson learned and make sure it doesn't happen again. OTOH, I'd hang them high if they had a habit of doing such things
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-16-2014, 09:25 AM
Fold on dotted line
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SE Mich
Posts: 3,094
Quote:
Originally Posted by aklim View Post
Definitely weird. If it was a prank going south, sure. At the first reading this it does sound like an accident where u said take a left and you took a right or I said left instead of right. I really don't like to penalize for innocent mistakes myself. Just lesson learned and make sure it doesn't happen again. OTOH, I'd hang them high if they had a habit of doing such things
Doesn't matter if it's the first time or the 40th time.

It's a potential accidental death waiting to happen.

How about if we sequester the Chief of Police or the Mayor of Chicago there for 31 hours?

Ya think Rahm Immanuel would say, " Well accidents happen. It's cool."

Nope, he'd hang 'em high.
__________________
Strelnik
Invest in America: Buy a Congressman!

1950 170SD
1951 Citroen 11BN
1953 Citroen 11BNF limo
1953 220a project
1959 180D
1960 190D
1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr
1983 240D daily driver
1983 380SL
1990 350SDL daily driver alt
3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5
3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-16-2014, 09:48 AM
INSIDIOUS's Avatar
Electron spewer
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Honah Lee
Posts: 9,712
The visit was official jail business, Farad Polk was inside. The wonderment issues is about why they didn't try to locate him. They don't keep track of visitors? At some point he had to be considered missing? No search?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-16-2014, 09:51 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 5,006
Quote:
Originally Posted by aklim View Post
Was it done maliciously? It was an accident. I would not sure until I had some knowledge that someone purposely locked me up. Medical bills, sure.
Accident is the term often used to shield an incompetent who's pleads ignorance. How does someone entering a prison get lost for 31 hours without every inch of the prison being searched?

His treatment was deliberate and inhumane and the only reason that he's able to sue is because the people who did this to him are protected by the establishment, who would rather use the public's tax money settle grievances then to fire the idiots that think that they can get away with doing this. The people who do this know that they'll be protected which is why they think they can.
__________________
With best regards

Al

Check out the W114, W115 enthusiast website.
http://www.stroke8.org

http://www.w108.org

Join the Mercedes W108 group
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mercedesw108/

My 280SL restoration

http://www.w108.org/gallery/albums/a...0959.thumb.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-16-2014, 10:12 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,063
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmac2012 View Post
I don't normally go for suing the state on such things but this kind of stuff is weird. Guy could have died in there. Not sure how he broke the sprinkler off but absent that move, they might have found him from the stink about 8 days later.

That would be way weird to be entombed in a sound proof concrete chamber for 31 hours. Long enough to wonder if you're going to die in there.
If you are a Statist who practices the religion of Statism (worshiping the so-called "State"), then you have a delimma on your hands. You're either all in or all out, black or white, all this or all that, certainly not BOTH (riding the fence). Which means this: If you are a true Statist, then you have to take the good, the bad and the ugly, ALL OF IT, HOOK, LINE AND SINKER. Be true to your school, you support the so-called "State" 188% even when it does wrong. Then go back to your cable television and a six pack of beer and try and forget about your moral dilemma.......
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-16-2014, 10:16 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 5,063
Quote:
Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS View Post
The visit was official jail business, Farad Polk was inside. The wonderment issues is about why they didn't try to locate him. They don't keep track of visitors? At some point he had to be considered missing? No search?
You are forgetting something, we are talking about government functionaries and their ability (inability?) to carry out their job functions.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page