280 pass???, 15 crew shot down at the Ukraine Russia border?? Breaking news !! Flight 17?

This one should be easier to find. Malaysian passenger plane crashes in Ukraine near Russian border: Ifax | Reuters Another 777. Not a bright idea to fly over a war zone. Word from Malaysia air is "lost contact".

Flying at 30K ft. and shot down?
Had to have been a S.A.M. if it wasn't shot down by another aircraft.
Russian excuse to invade?

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Full-sized SAM (not MANPAD), radar-controlled AA gun, or fighter jet. Or a really unlucky mechanical failure in the wrong place.

If it was shot down, it's not the kind of hardware used by freelancing cowboys.

report indicated perhaps pro Russian insurgents. It's anybody's guess.

This is going to get really ugly...


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They are yakkin about a Soviet BUK? missile.

Malaysian air says investigating some incident on board?

Also some unusual radio silence beforehand?

Also said the military has been instructed to get on it. We need ping data

maybe somebody thought it was the OTHER missing 777 and shot it down...

Why the hell was a civilian airliner flying over an active war zone?

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It's a commercial flight corridor. One graphic I saw showed multiple air craft use the corridor on a regular basis.

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Two transport planes shot down at cruising altitude in that region since last week, indicating that someone was using high-altitude anti-aircraft weaponry. Airspace closed to civilian flights by the Ukrainian civil aviation authorities. The warnings were there: I don't know why anyone thought that it was a good idea to fly there.

This is as crazy as shipping company officials saying "but they REALLY don't MEAN unrestricted submarine warfare."

Putin: More sanctions=less planes.

We're going to have to be really sure it was Russia before we can do anything, but we probably have a satellite looking at that place.

Putin gonna get his PP spanked if they did it.

Still could be anything.

Life is cheap. They wanted to save fuel costs.

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