The value of Higher Ed - Page 5 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

John Galt · #61 07-30-2014, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

IMO, any education has to be viewed FIRST as whether it can pay for itself or not financially. After which, you can debate about which avenue moves your soul. "how to learn" is a wonderful thing, no doubt about it. ....

Anyone who was paying attention in class should have mastered the skill of "how to learn" by the time they finish high-school. Post-secondary education should be focused on what to learn so they have some skills to sell to pay their way in the big wide world.

aklim · #62 07-30-2014, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

Anyone who was paying attention in class should have mastered the skill of "how to learn" by the time they finish high-school. Post-secondary education should be focused on what to learn so they have some skills to sell to pay their way in the big wide world.

If you want to enrich your soul, find meaning, etc, etc, nobody is saying it is a bad thing. Like any enterprise besides being a government, it has to be able to pay for itself first and foremost. Education is a tool like anything else. Once it can pay back what was put in financially, the rest is up for debate as to which path to take.

Shortsguy1 · #63 07-30-2014, 07:57 PM

My apologies in advance if these sources of ROI data by University have already been presented:
Money Magazine:
Money Magazine’s Top 50 Colleges At a Glance - 1

Payscale.com:
http://www.payscale.com/college-roi/

In general, very high quality private schools (but not necessarily Ivy's) seem to do best in these rankings.

John Galt · #64 07-30-2014, 08:05 PM

People who go to " very high quality private schools" likely get their first job on family connections.

Hatterasguy · #65 07-30-2014, 08:08 PM

What I'm seeing in my little part of the world is a large amount of 25-35 year old's trying to start their life but have to much student loan debt.

Its criminal letting these people take out essentially mortgages on their future.

aklim · #66 07-30-2014, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

People who go to " very high quality private schools" likely get their first job on family connections.

Connection between rich and powerful is better than the alternative. As I said, it is more pleasant to wax philosophical in comfort than discomfort. Or so my experience has been.

aklim · #67 07-30-2014, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

What I'm seeing in my little part of the world is a large amount of 25-35 year old's trying to start their life but have to much student loan debt.

Its criminal letting these people take out essentially mortgages on their future.

If you are unable to function as an adult, perhaps a ward of the state is more to your liking.?

Diesel911 · #68 07-30-2014, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Do you blame them? Would you want your daughter hooking up with the town druggie? If I were a parent and I have a way to stop it without bad feelings, you bet I will. People who want to share have a reason. Either it is because it improves THEIR average or buy them immortality. If I am broke, you bet I will want to average my salary with Bill Gates. If I were Bill Gates, I might want to "donate" a hospital wing for tax reasons and/or to buy myself immortality which might rub off on my kids. Or I might want to do something to please my deity, wife, etc, etc.

I don't blame them. It is just one of the reasons the Schools are going to remain more exclusive.
Besides, as the one Member suspects I just am just guessing.

Diesel911 · #69 07-30-2014, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel

Its been my experience in life (I graduated a State U after some .mil time...)... has been that "you are who you know". (ie: the more friends you have, and the higher up they are, the higher up you will be)

I'm gonna guess the ivy league students 'know' more richer people than State U students do. I can't back this up with statistics, am I wrong ?

-Happy with the life I have

I don't think you are wrong. Also their Parents know or even might be on the list of "Who is Who".

Diesel911 · #70 07-30-2014, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

I thought this was the case.

Shortsguy1 · #71 07-30-2014, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

Amazing that he doesn't realize he is being played. Bravo D911.

Mölyapina · #72 07-30-2014, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

As they say, if you want a guarantee, get a toaster.

This strikes me as particularly ironic since our toaster has been making trouble this week...

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Originally Posted by aklim

Considering that there was something written a while ago about kids with unusual and hard to pronounce names not getting a good look, what would you think?

Bummer.