Jesse Ventura Wins $1.8M Verdict Against Estate of "American Sniper"
 

Jesse Ventura awarded $1.8 million in suit against

On the sixth day of deliberations, the federal jury decided that the 2012 best-selling book defamed Ventura in its description of a bar fight in California in 2006. Kyle wrote that he decked a man whom he later identified as Ventura after the man allegedly said the Navy SEALs “deserve to lose a few.”

:oJesse needs a new wardrobe. Old stuff too big.
Looks like a case of he said/she said right down the line. I have no opinion. I wasn't there. Did I hear correctly that this trial was in Minnesota?


Where have all the soldiers gone?.....
.....Gone to the Court House just this one......

When will they ever learn.......
........When will they ever learn :(

Meh stealing from a dead man.....

Dunno. If he bad mouthed me in print that bad, some of his money could come my way it'd be OK by me.

If ventura has any class ( fat chance ) he will donate every bit of that money to charity. He wouldn't have made a wart on Chris Kyles neck.

Exactly why again? This went to trial, Kyle, and hence the estate lost. I sue you, I win. Money is mine to do with AS I SEE FIT. I didn't go through all that trouble and legal expense to donate it all to charity. Did charity take up the case for him? If not, he don't owe them the proverbial red cent

Guess you are like many others. "If I don't like the court outcome, I don't respect it.". :rolleyes:

Sorry, he won fair and square. No theft involved.

First sentence I agree with wholeheartedly.

He sued some widow for her deceased husbands comments, possibly stretching the truth. Does anyone remember where he got his FAME? I just hope that many of those who have purchased tickets to any of the lies that he was part of selling in the "professional wrestling" show bring suit to him. He was a seller of lies for most of his career! Or maybe all of his career, after all he went into politics after crafting his art in wrestling.

Interesting observations....but that does not give one the right to lie about someone in public.

I don't follow so help me out here. His widow is whom again? IIRC, it was his wife. That means she shares in whatever it is he has and is responsible for his debts too. If I won a million dollar lottery, my wife has half if we divorce and all if I die. So if I have debts, they go for her if I die after winning the lottery and vice versa. So what is it you expect? You sue his estate.

The court disagrees with you. Either respect the court whichever way it rules or not. This is cherry picking

I don't remember hearing that his widow claimed that it actually happened "the knock down". After all he has derived all of his fame from falsehoods, unless you believe pro wrestling is real.

The only answer that I have to that is, what portion of that book sales was due to the fact that he may have trumped up one chapter. Then what harm was done to him (Jessie the Body) by that trumped up charge. Did he loose 1.8mil in ticket sale s to a fraud show that he was no longer able to commit? By that I do not mean ending his political career. Sorry lefties, that is another one that needed to go.

Can someone explain to me what his past acts as an actor/entertainer in wrestling has to do with the snipers lie in a book?

Since when has wrestling been advertised as real? Ventura is no more guilty of lying than Michael Douglas or Adam Sandler.

I have a hard time seeing how this verdict is political. Jessie was an independent and I believe you will find that D's did not find him to their liking.

James George Janos - essentially a Navy Seal himself.

Is that what you say about actors? I mean, do you believe a lot of the sci-fi movies are real?

You work for free? When you sue someone, you hire a lawyer or DIY. You know what they say about a man who represents himself in court. This lawyer works for money. When I claim you owe me money, the collection agency wants 35% of anything they recover. If they go to court, 50%. So, Ventura has to account for that. Why all the anger about him being a wrestler? You also pissed at anything besides a documentary?

As to fraud, guess what. You go to a wrestling show to be entertained much like going to an action, sci-fi, romance, etc, etc movie, or even a stand up comedian. Are you going to fact check each and every movie?

The audience knows it's not real, except for the morons. IOW, about 55% of the audience knows it's not real. http://www.zhpmafia.com/forums/image...es/Halo(1).gif

It isn't real? Come on. It is seen on TV just like a lot of movies. I suppose you will say next that the porn movies and the stories they depict are not real either? :mad:

The profession of entertainer is an honorable one. Actors portray other people for our entertainment just as Professional wrestlers portray vague action hero's for our entertainment.

I find what they do hokey since I wrestled competitively when I was young, but I don't think they are immoral for doing it.

The Sniper fellow no doubt had exceptional skills and risked his life doing his work to protect the rest of us.

That does not give him a free pass for the rest of his life to say whatever he wants about other people. You can defame someone but if you get sued and lose in court you still have to pay.

Pretty much so. And if you are dead, your estate or whoever owns it gets sued.

Perhaps the suit was filed when he was still alive.

Yes, there was a video deposition of Kyle.

I'm not sure it matters whether he is dead or alive. The insult was done when he was alive so the suit can proceed as long as the injured people are alive and he has an estate to sue.

yes

That is obvious.

A Boxer wearing Boxing Gloves hits someone and the Guy He hit bleeds. A Wrestler hits someone bare knuckled in the Face multiple times and the Guy's Face never gets cut or bruised.

Jesse Ventura vs. Chris Kyle: A case where no one won

Ventura always was a bit of a meathead. The whole SEAL scene strikes me as being heavy on the meathead side. Chest beating taken to the Nth degree.

Fine, but what about the porn shows that depict how easy it is to get lucky with beautiful women? :eek:

Of course those are all true.;)

Oh good. For a moment I thought you were going to say that they were fake. DOes that extend to Sci-Fi or is that where we draw the line? I just booked me a trip on the Starship Enterprise. Well worth it for $300K. I mean, Warp Speed is going to be so cool to watch. :D

Question. What if it wasn't Kyle whose estate got sued? What if it was say the estate of some rich but unpopular guy? How many who rushed to Kyle's support would be rushing to that other unpopular guy? I think few, if any.

Jessie was not a seller of lies. He was in show business. His job was to entertain and he was successful at it.

And as an entertainer he has an image to protect since his image was created by him and he owns it and trades upon it. John Wayne was not really John Wayne because from what I hear from the old timers Wayne dialed it back a bit from his true self.

Would Wayne be considered a seller of lies?

Not that difficult pal. The real impediment is fear.

Depends. Do we like Wayne or not? If we do, no. If we don't, absolutely.

I think you have gone to the root of this thing.

But on the other hand.... I don't hate Sarah Palin, but I consider her a seller of lies. She tells things that she wants to be taken as truth and gets paid to do so; things that are clearly not true.

Jessie, or any entertainer, sells you their image and you pay for the enjoyment you receive from the entertainment value they provide. Actors don't, for a living anyway, try to get the public to vote or send them money so they can influence the vote.

What's your point? What is SP but a politician? Politicians don't tell you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. If they did, I doubt many would vote for them. When a politician tells you "If you vote for me, I will get you lower income taxes." and he does give you lower taxes but raises other taxes or cuts services to you, he told you the truth BUT not the whole truth. It is no different from a store giving you a 20% discount but marking it up to make up for the discount. How transparent or opaque the lie is a debate that does NOT interest me. I don't really care whether it is an outright lie or a "lie of omission". I just stamp "LIAR" and move on for either case. So, do you know any politician that will tell you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I don't.

They don't? Seriously? You think that the fact that they are more popular and hence more sought after doesn't factor into their pay scale? You going to tell me that when I interview with you the fact that I dress up in a suit and tie vs flip flops, "wife beater" top and torn jeans isn't because I am trying to make myself more appealing than the next candidate? Both politicians and actors ARE trying to get the public vote. Public doesn't vote for the politician t the polls, he has no job. Public doesn't vote for the actor at the box office, he too has no job. The coin they are paid in is different but the fact that they are paid for their "act" is the same.

Well, what Porn teaches you is can hire a porn Star (make your own Movie) if you want to and you will get lucky just like in the Porn Movie.

If you believe anything else it is just like Wrestling; you are believing because you want to.

The first statement is incorrect. Ventura DID NOT sue a widow for her deceased husbands comments. The timeline is as follows- Ventura sued Kyle. Then Kyle was murdered during the trial process. The estate was then left to stand in place of Kyle.

The estate, had it's day in court and lost. Not sure what else to make of it other than that

No, he did not. Your first statement is incorrect.

That is correct.