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Old 08-27-2014, 08:40 PM
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Let us say that in a large School District 30 Tenures Positions open and you have 2 Excellent Teachers to fill 2 spots and a bunch of less then adequate Teachers to fill the Positions.
Then time on the Job also counts so that means that the newest and the brightes are not going to get a chance.
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:46 PM
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The Head of the Los Angeles CA School District was on the News a few minutes ago.

2 of the things that was discussed is that there is a State Law was stayed that would allow the District Head to fire the 3,000 Teachers that He had previously said He wanted to fire regardless of time on the job.

The District Head said He wanted to get rid of any Teacher that had low performance for 2 Years in a row.

The District Head also said He welcomes and it is a District Policy to accept the Unaccompanied Illegal Alien Children and when ask about who would have to pay for them He gave a Song And Dance about those Children being here because of them fleeing violence and so on and that it would be inhumane to refuse them.

The The Head of the Los Angeles CA School District was on the News a few minutes ago.

2 of the things that was discussed is that there is a State Law was stayed that would allow the District Head to fire the 3,000 Teachers that He had previously said He wanted to fire regardless of time on the job.

The District Head said He wanted to get rid of any Teacher that had low performance for 2 Years in a row.

The District Head also said He welcomes and it is a District Policy to accept the Unaccompanied Illegal Alien Children and when ask about who would have to pay for them He gave a Song And Dance about those Children being hear because of the fleeing violence and so on and that it would be inhumane to refuse them.

The School District Head is extremely good at deflecting probing questions and giving answers that the News Caster cannot probe into without looking inhumane.
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The resources are being wasted because they keep trying what is supposed to be new innovative things that Social Workers, Psychologist and so on are pushing for that work in isolated instances.
Problem is many think "some money is good, more has to be better" which is why we keep asking for more money. Basically so the parents don't have to deal with uncomfortable issues:

1. Kid has no ability for scholastic stuff and should be learning a trade

2. Kid has poor attitude

To be fair, teachers play a role but a rather small role since you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Does it mean we shouldn't insist on making the teachers better? Not at all. However good the teacher is, we cannot make them fix all the problems of life.
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Problem is many think "some money is good, more has to be better" which is why we keep asking for more money. Basically so the parents don't have to deal with uncomfortable issues:

1. Kid has no ability for scholastic stuff and should be learning a trade

2. Kid has poor attitude

To be fair, teachers play a role but a rather small role since you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Does it mean we shouldn't insist on making the teachers better? Not at all. However good the teacher is, we cannot make them fix all the problems of life.
I agree.

In the US People tend to think that if we throw enough Money into a problem that it will get fixed and when we do that we don't want to spend a little more Money to monitor how the Money is used/results.

We do the Same with Laws.
Los Angles County has less then 100 People to check if you are getting cheated at the Gas Station and they also have to do any sort of Scales or other measuering devices. The result of not enough Enforcement is that People right now People are getting cheated.
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I agree.

In the US People tend to think that if we throw enough Money into a problem that it will get fixed and when we do that we don't want to spend a little more Money to monitor how the Money is used/results.

We do the Same with Laws.
Los Angles County has less then 100 People to check if you are getting cheated at the Gas Station and they also have to do any sort of Scales or other measuering devices. The result of not enough Enforcement is that People right now People are getting cheated.
Why monitor the results if it gives you problems? You only want to ask a question when you know the answer and it is favorable.
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Why monitor the results if it gives you problems? You only want to ask a question when you know the answer and it is favorable.
It depends on your Goal.
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It depends on your Goal.
I don't believe in altruism so there is only one thing else. Benefits to self, coin can vary but payment still remains.
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I don't believe in altruism so there is only one thing else. Benefits to self, coin can vary but payment still remains.
But, that does not mean altruism does not exist in others.
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Why monitor the results if it gives you problems? You only want to ask a question when you know the answer and it is favorable.
This is not an argument just some views from the Past on Public Education.

When I was going to School (in the area I lived in) Teachers still were able to exercise a lot of discipline in the Class and few Parents let their Kids get away with stuff at School.
Also at least in My area the Drug Culture had not gotten a hold of the Student Population as it has now.

Along with that the non-English speaking Immigrants Illegal or otherwise did not swamp the School System and the environment out side of School was one where you needed to know and use English on a daily basis encouraging People to learn to speak English.

So the Environment was such that things were not monitored like they were now.

Along with the above the USA was actually Manufacturing most of the things that People were buying and that meant that poorly educated or not you could get a Job and support yourself.

Also there was not a flood of Immigrants the already filled those jobs because the Economy was somewhat stable even in Mexico (that changed in the 1970s).

For a long time the Federal Government dolled out Money for Bodies moving through the System even if the did not learn.

The Economy worsened and the Federal Government started taking a harder look at what was happening to the Funds mainly due to Activist in the poorer Neighborhoods realizing there Kids did not have the skills to compete.

Manufacturing Jobs disappeared and Immigrants fill the Jobs that Kids graduating High School typically took making it harder to find all around to find a Job.

In order to get some minimally decent Paying job you needed to have some education or skill.

All the social and economical stuff came down on a School Systems that did not have the resources or know how to deal with them. And on top of that they are a Political Football.

Not unlike a peacetime Army that suddenly finds itself involved in a World War on all fronts School Systems on the whole have not been able to re-group.

Unlike in a World War where the War Effort becomes a force for organization the effort to fix Education except for isolated cases continues to fragment. 
 
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