I will get a copy and read it. I have for whatever reason not read Clancys literature for years.

Really I do not expect what are crude projections of what I post to actually occur. It just occurred to me some time ago it may not a be complete impossibility.

At the same time there was no indication other than seemingly mentioned assurances it would be only transmissible by body fluids. The general public could accept that it seems.

The truth of those statements over time was not mentioned anyplace I saw. Or even the remotest chance of the situation changing either.

Possibly when activity seems to be slowing down on the site that periodically occurs. I try to stimulate things during those periods. Even at the risk of seemingly being somewhat unorthodox in the process.

Barry, this seemed relevant to your interests:

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From the Associated Press; Ebola is here.
PeoplePC - News

"#Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:03:47 -0500
DALLAS (AP) — Federal health officials have confirmed that a patient being treated at a Dallas hospital has tested positive for Ebola.
The case announced Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control is the first Ebola case diagnosed in the United States.
Officials at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital say the unidentified patient is being kept in isolation. Presbyterian Hospital officials say they're following CDC recommendations to keep doctors, staff and patients safe."

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Oh good. Let's all panic.

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You are a sensible person. I would not advocate panic either. I just feel in general they may run too loose a ship.

If this ever mutated seriously and a case got into the states. It could occur before or as it mutated. Now this recent Texas case just got in got in from Africa I think. I hope they are running around and checking on all the other people that where on that flight. Even if there was some contagion is not signifigant as long as it remains body fluids or handling the dead as transmission.

The problem I have is still the same. All inbound passengers should be held in isolation for the period required. Otherwise if it suddenly mutates and they initially miss it has.

We will have a literal panic on our hands if it becomes airborn. That's before they catch it has and a planeload of partially infected people get off the plane and mix with others. Some reasonable delay in boarding a plane from Africa is just the safest way. Besides the human cost I doubt the current economy could absorb it.

There have been far too many cases of proffessionals in many fields making really bad decisions in hindsight. There is no sound evidence it is going to mutate to an airborne virus. On the other hand with the increasing number of cases may make it a more positive possibility than ever.

Time will tell but obviously up till today they are going to be satisfied with a few active cases flying in. Or becoming active after arrival. There is no guarantee that even one arrival with it may seek out medical attention for many reasons. So there might be a few cases to deal with that do not directly originate in Africa. That possibility was unleashed today.

The potential for a panic is not being conservative enough.

I have already made up a name for the Airborne Version. I the Flubola has a nice ring to it.

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The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
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Millions die each year from cancer and heart disease, and a few Africans dieing is hyped up to create panic, paranoia and distractions.

Ebola isn't the real concern, it is being over hyped to distract people from the diseases spreading across USSA as a result of MrZero's immigration policies.

A rare respiratory virus and paralysis is spreading among US kids. It is not possible for over 40 states to be experiencing EV-68 all at once until you factor in the one new factor - zerO's transporting illegals to all 50 states this summer. Quite apparent he wanted to leave no state untouched. This is what happens when the President of the country lets in 60,000 kids from Honduras, Nicaragua, Mexico, etc., etc.,without conducting a single background or medical check.

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In perspective the poster stating three thousand dead is right. More than that number die daily from other individual specific diseases.

Part of the feeling is if It is not myself that contracts something it is not that bad. Centre for disease control has a responsability or should have to be on the very conservative side.

It looks like currently a 21 day isolation period before getting on a plane in Africa for north America would not be a bad ideal. Even the latest guy with the disclaimer of any risk. Has been in contact with six known people in America possibly since becoming contageous. He also went to a hospital when sick and was sent home the first time after examination. You have to wonder if those medical proffessionals where also protected when they saw him.

Once again if it were to mutate under the current arrangement it is far from adequate. Even only by the current transmission methods there are questions of why no waiting period before boarding a plane in Africa is in effect.. Plus how many north Americans would have to die or become very sick before they implemented what should already be in place?

Some more americans may die or get very sick from the Texas case is still a possibility. If this occurs someone or group has made a form of allowable risk a policy. This ideal that we can contain small outbreaks in north America is a bad approach. You have to put the value of people over the almighty buck. I personally will not know the next north American to die on the soil here. I will feel it was not required to happen though no matter who they are. The episode will be very important to them and their family. It will be a great consolation for them that it was only confined to a small group though. So it is pretty obvious that we have a problem even without mutation.

Correlation is causation now? Since you're obviously a Virologist, I'd love to see your science on this, like say from the CDC or some other reputable institution, rather than right wing blogs. EV-D68 cases are being reported worldwide. Europe, Asia and Africa as well as N. America. There are three main clades of the organism and all three are showing up worldwide. Are they all Obama's fault too?

My entire herd of dairy goats got pink-eye this summer. It started about the same time these kids started coming across the border. Thanks Obama!

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Are you suggesting that letting in 60,000 kids from Honduras, Nicaragua, Mexico, etc., etc., without conducting adequate background or medical checks was a good idea?

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Just from a statistical epidemiology standpoint, children from Latin American countries are more likely to be better immunized than US kids. Compared to children in Texas, where immunizations are not subsidized, children from Latin America are dramatically less likely to carry infectious diseases, including TB.

However, that does not prevent the uninformed from casting the image that immigrants pose a health risk to the local community. That's been SOP since . . . Columbus.

What I find interesting is that in a lot of 3rd World/Developing Countries there is a big issue with fake/useless Medicines being used. Why not the same with Immnizations.

Yet I am being told that that People in those Countries are better immunized.

It would be better to post the incidence of various diseases in Latin America as compared to the US; that would lend some facts to the claim that they are less pron to having those diseases.

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I have documented facts to back my opinions, do you?

Illegal Alien Minors Spreading TB, Dengue, Swine Flu - Judicial Watch

CDC Warning: Immigrant Children Could Be Spreading This New Mystery Virus In Public Schools

Two examples from About 594,000 results

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Two pretty crappy examples. The first link doesn't mention EV-D68, and the second link is hair-on-fire. Read the ACTUAL advisory here:
HAN Archive - 00370|Health Alert Network (HAN)

You won't find the words "immigrant children could be spreading.." ANYWHERE in it. Like I said, where's the science?

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Certainly not. You on the other hand appear to be suggesting rather strongly that it is somehow understood and agreed upon by virologists and others studying disease vectors that these kids are responsible for some "epidemic".

Try again. If you wish. You've got 590some thousand links to dig through.

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