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Old 01-16-2015, 10:37 AM
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Well I got this for Christmas and it is crap

G'day Folks,

I got this for Christmas



It is called an "e" reader

I've been desperately trying to find a use for the sodding thing so I uploaded the W201 FSM PDFs so I can refer to that good book whilst spannerin' on me motah...

...damn screen is too small and the zoom zooms in like it is doing some sort of hyper CSI investigation where the type face of the letter "C" needs to be seen in the greatest detail possible...

...and this is the version that is not meant to flash like a twat when you change pages...

...does anyone else have trouble with this type of technology?

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Old 01-16-2015, 10:54 AM
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I do.

I can't get used to book readers, I just dont enjoy it and its hard for me to read. I have also been a victim of well meaning gifts of technology that exceed my capacity to use.

I was given a palm pilot once and I just can't proceed past writing stuff on a physical calander hanging on a wall.

Same with books. I like the feel and smell of a book, and the way the light hits the page.
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:24 AM
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As strange as it sounds, I find it easier for me to read from a Kindle or iPad than a book. While I preceded the diagnosis of ADHD, I have no doubt I would be slapped with that label today. Whenever reading books, even ones that interested me, 10 pages later I would find myself thinking about anything else and not remembering a word I read. I'd have to start all over again.

For some reason, I absorb a lot more when reading from an e-device of some sort. Not that I can sit for hours and read, mind you (which I really wish I could do). I can go for a good 30 minutes and retain what I read. Pick up a book and I'm right back in school again, staring at the words on the pages and thinking about dinner, baseball, puppies, cars, etc.

I can't speak to using them as a reference manual, though. I can see that as being annoying.
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:04 PM
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I do.

I can't get used to book readers, I just dont enjoy it and its hard for me to read. I have also been a victim of well meaning gifts of technology that exceed my capacity to use.

I was given a palm pilot once and I just can't proceed past writing stuff on a physical calander hanging on a wall.

Same with books. I like the feel and smell of a book, and the way the light hits the page.
I too prefer real books but was kind of hoping a tablet / e-book thing might work out as quite a useful thing to have in the tool box as you can clean off oily paw prints more easily - being able to read the information is my primary concern (with this stupid electronic thing) however.

The one thing I hate about technology is when it doesn't do what it is meant to do.

It is like buying something from Microsoft

It is like buying a Renault.
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:11 PM
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...While I preceded the diagnosis of ADHD...
Don't get me started on that! It seems like half the kids at my children's school have been labelled with ADHD.

I've reached the conclusion that ADHD is dished out to so many kids to make their parents feel better about the lack of concern and interest they take in their offspring. Just look at the kids with ADHD and then look at their parents with their heads up their arses and noses in their mobile telephones => no ****ing wonder there's an attention related problem there...

...yet another reason for my Luddite sympathies I'm afraid to say
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:20 PM
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My sister and mother are hardcore readers and they enjoy their kindles. The classic book will never be replaced of course but their is merit in having hundreds of books at your fingertips for the space of just one. You can read in the dark as well, plenty of pros IMHO.

Supposedly their is an app where NY state residents have access to the library systems entire ebook inventory for free, you just have to sign up.

But to each their own, not flawless devices of course.
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:23 PM
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Don't get me started on that! It seems like half the kids at my children's school have been labelled with ADHD.

I've reached the conclusion that ADHD is dished out to so many kids to make their parents feel better about the lack of concern and interest they take in their offspring. Just look at the kids with ADHD and then look at their parents with their heads up their arses and noses in their mobile telephones => no ****ing wonder there's an attention related problem there...

...yet another reason for my Luddite sympathies I'm afraid to say
I have no doubt it's over-diagnosed now, but I'm talking 30+ years ago in my case. My parents were always on me and I did well in school, was fairly well behaved. I can certainly read well enough, I just can't absorb pages and pages of typed word off of paper worth a deuce. Perhaps ADHD was the wrong self-diagnosis.

Now, for kids the same age as mine...
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:23 PM
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I think it's the same with this explosion in autism, are their really more autistic kids today then there were in the past or is it just because we are "diagnosing" more kids w/ autism than we used to?
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Don't get me started on that! It seems like half the kids at my children's school have been labelled with ADHD.

I've reached the conclusion that ADHD is dished out to so many kids to make their parents feel better about the lack of concern and interest they take in their offspring. Just look at the kids with ADHD and then look at their parents with their heads up their arses and noses in their mobile telephones => no ****ing wonder there's an attention related problem there...

...yet another reason for my Luddite sympathies I'm afraid to say
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Old 01-16-2015, 01:31 PM
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My sister and mother are hardcore readers and they enjoy their kindles. The classic book will never be replaced of course but their is merit in having hundreds of books at your fingertips for the space of just one. You can read in the dark as well, plenty of pros IMHO.

Supposedly their is an app where NY state residents have access to the library systems entire ebook inventory for free, you just have to sign up.

But to each their own, not flawless devices of course.
That's how we ended up with a Kindle (and I discovered that I could retain what I read off an e-device), my wife is a voracious reader as well. She'll blow through a few hundred page novel in a matter of hours over a weekend. Our little house just doesn't have enough room for a library.

I'll have to look to see if CT offers a similar program.
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:09 PM
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I think it's the same with this explosion in autism, are their really more autistic kids today then there were in the past or is it just because we are "diagnosing" more kids w/ autism than we used to?
It sure seems like there are a lot more kids with Autistic behaviors than when I was a kid. Kids with special needs weren't integrated into the classroom back then as they are now, but we'd always see the kids around school and at concerts and assemblies.

Having a kid with Down syndrome, we share many of the same circles as parents of kids with Autism. So while I don't live it day-to-day, I have a lot of interaction with them or their parents (some of whom were friends before we all started having kids). I also help with my son's Challenger League baseball team and have had the pleasure of coaching a bunch on kids who are on the spectrum. And that spectrum covers a wide range of tendencies!

I can't help but wonder what factor or combination of factors have led to the increasing number of kids with autistic behaviors. Part of the increase in the diagnosis could be the vast range of behaviors and delays (if any) the Autism Spectrum covers. It's not a parenting issue.

But I digress. (Sorry about the detour on your thread, Stretch!)
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:17 PM
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Old 01-16-2015, 03:16 PM
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It sure seems like there are a lot more kids with Autistic behaviors than when I was a kid. Kids with special needs weren't integrated into the classroom back then as they are now, but we'd always see the kids around school and at concerts and assemblies.

Having a kid with Down syndrome, we share many of the same circles as parents of kids with Autism. So while I don't live it day-to-day, I have a lot of interaction with them or their parents (some of whom were friends before we all started having kids). I also help with my son's Challenger League baseball team and have had the pleasure of coaching a bunch on kids who are on the spectrum. And that spectrum covers a wide range of tendencies!

I can't help but wonder what factor or combination of factors have led to the increasing number of kids with autistic behaviors. Part of the increase in the diagnosis could be the vast range of behaviors and delays (if any) the Autism Spectrum covers. It's not a parenting issue.

But I digress. (Sorry about the detour on your thread, Stretch!)
I think I'm the guilty one for going off topic - besides I really don't mind about that kind of stuff - especially in OD

As for autism it does indeed include a massive range of tendencies - I think "they" are starting to rename parts of it now aren't they?

I don't know if what I said about the children I've seen with ADHD and the parents is especially fair - it just seems to be a bit of a coincidence.

Labels can help children and parents outside of the family unit. Teachers and doctors seem to need them to help them get focus! (In other words with a label they know what to do) The label at home makes no difference - the child is just as he or she ever was.

However, labels can have the effect of making the parents no longer responsible - kind of says it isn't their fault their child plays up => that's what gets my goat.
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Old 01-16-2015, 03:19 PM
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Love reading books on my Kindle, but nothing will ever be able to replace the sensation and excitement of turning paper pages in a good book.
I (obviously) prefer real books - I was just trying to think of a use for this electronic one of mine.

Have you tried uploading FSM PDFs on your Kindle thing? Does it zoom in better than I've described?
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Whenever reading books, even ones that interested me, 10 pages later I would find myself thinking about anything else and not remembering a word I read. I'd have to start all over again.
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