Tesla Model III, 250 Mile Range, Priced at $35K?

[MTI]

Tesla Model 3 | Performance, Specs, News, Rumors | Digital Trends

Elon Musk also revealed the second key figure in the Model 3’s attraction, its price. Set for reveal in March of 2016, with deliveries beginning in 2017, the Model 3 will cost just $35,000. That figure will undercut the upcoming Chevrolet Bolt, which will cost $38,000 and have a range of 200 miles.

[tjts1]

Between this and the powerwall the new battery factory in Nevada will stay very busy. We're looking at a used model S to add to our fleet but I suspect the price on these will come tumbling down once the 3 is out.

[aklim]

Approx 58 miles of travel per charge so you are charging for 5 hours. Supercharger Stations aren't that plentiful like a gas station. Even diesel is a PITA for me partly because I don't fill up till it is on the E mark. If you run out, I'm not sure what you are going to do. Unless it becomes way more popular and there are free charging stations everywhere, it is going to have to be a short commute car only.

[MTI]

That's 58 mile per hour of charging on 240V AC.
A Supercharger station touts 50% recharge in 20 minutes.

Here in PHX, and in other cities, the benefit of an EV include express lane access and recharging parking spaces, where the cost is about $0.17 per hour and the spaces are usually similarly located as the handicap spaces, right up front.

[aklim]

Give or take 40 minutes for full charge. Much longer than a gas fill. From the map, there are dense populations of them in certain areas and not in most of the country. At this point, I'm not sure they are a factor

Given EV status, it is still not as convenient as gas or diesel. Maybe as a salesman's car which is plugged in at night or a in town short commute vehicle

[MTI]

Originally Posted by aklim

Give or take 40 minutes for full charge. Much longer than a gas fill. From the map, there are dense populations of them in certain areas and not in most of the country. At this point, I'm not sure they are a factor

Given EV status, it is still not as convenient as gas or diesel. Maybe as a salesman's car which is plugged in at night or a in town short commute vehicle

A perspective buyer would have to examine what the primary and secondary uses of the car might be. For instance, my daily driver sees about 45 miles round trip, M-F and on the weekends it varies. A 125 mile radius put me within the other major urban areas in the state and there are Tesla Supercharger station along I-10, I-8 and I-40 to get to CA and NV, although I tend to fly, rather than drive.

Then there's the other cars we have.

[tbomachines]

I would absolutely be in the market for that. My commute is about 15 miles and almost entirely stop and go (it sucks). Currently I am lucky to get 10 mpg to a tank.

I've been toying with the idea of a volt as it is. Problem is battery tech depreciates much faster than engine tech...


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[aklim]

Originally Posted by MTI

A perspective buyer would have to examine what the primary and secondary uses of the car might be. For instance, my daily driver sees about 45 miles round trip, M-F and on the weekends it varies. A 125 mile radius put me within the other major urban areas in the state and there are Tesla Supercharger station along I-10, I-8 and I-40 to get to CA and NV, although I tend to fly, rather than drive.

Then there's the other cars we have.

30 min wait for recharging even if you do ind a station. Like I said, major inconvenience unless you use it only during the day for short trips and charge at night. I get twice the range out of my W140 and W210 all day long. Fill up is less than 10 minutes unless I flirt with the cute attendant.

[aklim]

Originally Posted by tbomachines

I would absolutely be in the market for that. My commute is about 15 miles and almost entirely stop and go (it sucks). Currently I am lucky to get 10 mpg to a tank.

I've been toying with the idea of a volt as it is. Problem is battery tech depreciates much faster than engine tech...


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Why not use a hybrid? Regenerative braking and you don't have to find a station and wait that long, or worse yet, run out of power. More convenient to find a gas station than a Supercharging Station.

[tbomachines]

Originally Posted by aklim

Why not use a hybrid? Regenerative braking and you don't have to find a station and wait that long, or worse yet, run out of power. More convenient to find a gas station than a Supercharging Station.

A plug in ev would be fine for 90% of my driving, and would not be my only car. A plug in hybrid is probably the best option (hence the volt...also the 2016 looks pretty good). But it'll be some time before I can get a different car...thin on cash.


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[aklim]

Originally Posted by tbomachines

A plug in ev would be fine for 90% of my driving, and would not be my only car. A plug in hybrid is probably the best option (hence the volt...also the 2016 looks pretty good). But it'll be some time before I can get a different car...thin on cash.


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For a limited use kinda vehicle, definitely. Maybe sometime they will get inductive charging down like my Samsung Galaxy S6 so you can park at home and it will charge just by driving over the pad or something.

Not sure I want a new car. Why take the hit on the depreciation? Let some other sucker who wants it do it and we reap the benefits of getting a leased car.

[BAVBMW]

With a 250mile range, I could certainly get by charging it overnight at home. Typically about once a month...

MV

[aklim]

Originally Posted by BAVBMW

With a 250mile range, I could certainly get by charging it overnight at home. Typically about once a month...

MV

I could get by too but like I said, it becomes a way less convenient option when you MUST charge it overnight at 120V or somehow get to a Supercharging station instead of just going to a gas station to fill up and be gone in less than 10 minutes. Like I said, if you run low for whatever reason, you are SOL and you can only go to a charging station and waste a lot of time waiting.

[BAVBMW]

Oh, I agree with that. I couldn't be my only car. But it could handle my daily driver needs pretty easily. But then, what sort of advantages, either for myself, or for the planet, are we going to be seeing if I have to add another vehicle to my collection? One for daily commuting, one for off-road/dogs/trailering/hauling, one for highway trips? I'm not sure that plan would be beneficial.

What about a compact 4x4 turbo diesel pickup capable of 40mpg highway, 25mpg city? Then I could have all my needs met by one vehicle.

Wouldn't produce as much smug though...

MV

[MTI]

Having an EV and not putting in the 240V circuit at home for charging is pretty "penny wise, pound foolish".