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Old 11-17-2015, 09:02 PM
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VW Diesels, Are people gonna dump them?

Are people going to dump them? I can't see any reason why except for the environmentally sensitive types. If the vehicle is good and gets the mileage I wouldn't trade mine in.

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Old 11-17-2015, 09:06 PM
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I think it all depends on whether or not the fix is good and how it will be enforced.
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Old 11-17-2015, 09:20 PM
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I hope so- they are great cars and I'd love to buy one really cheap.
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Old 11-17-2015, 09:53 PM
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I can't see anything working that won't choke the life out of it. My 6.5 had pollution control devices to include reducing fuel to the injectors. I pulled the EGR manifold out, and put different resistor in the PMD or what you would call a fuel control device plus my super secret fuel additive and got 18% better mileage.


I think the only ones going to be hurt are the California VW owners, they got the toughest epa out there.
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:04 PM
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if i had one no way would i get rid of it and no way in h3ll would i take it in for a recall.heck my 2000 jetta has 2 open recalls on it.it ain't going in for em either.whatever the fix you can bet it's gonna take a 10 percent minimum hit in milage and who knows about the power loss.then your gonna be dealing with the intake plugging up.no thanks
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Old 11-18-2015, 06:30 AM
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There are several distinct camps-

Camp 1- the wait and see what the fix is and keep the car. Only a few states actually link re-registration to emissions recalls so most drivers can avoid it if they want
Camp 2- the unaware of the entire situation and its an appliance i like. The car will be fixed when i get a letter and i will take it in and not even notice the difference if there is any
Camp 3- i was betrayed by VW and now i want money and lots of it. Everything that ever went wrong in my life can be attributed to VWs nefarious evil schemes

Depending on which camps you have your feet in you decide from there. The value is only slightly lower at the moment. The 2012 TDI we bought 1 week before the scandal seems approximately about 500 to 1k less in value, a marginal hit. Once they come up with a fix the value will climb back up, TDIs traditionally hold their value decently.

Doesnt really matter as we bought the car to drive for long term. They are quality cars, so if people do fall all over themselves to get rid of them in the "betrayed by VW" camp, they will be snatched up quick by enterprising buyers.
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Old 11-18-2015, 06:39 AM
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There are several distinct camps-

Camp 1- the wait and see what the fix is and keep the car. Only a few states actually link re-registration to emissions recalls so most drivers can avoid it if they want
Camp 2- the unaware of the entire situation and its an appliance i like. The car will be fixed when i get a letter and i will take it in and not even notice the difference if there is any
Camp 3- i was betrayed by VW and now i want money and lots of it. Everything that ever went wrong in my life can be attributed to VWs nefarious evil schemes

Depending on which camps you have your feet in you decide from there. The value is only slightly lower at the moment. The 2012 TDI we bought 1 week before the scandal seems approximately about 500 to 1k less in value, a marginal hit. Once they come up with a fix the value will climb back up, TDIs traditionally hold their value decently.

Doesnt really matter as we bought the car to drive for long term. They are quality cars, so if people do fall all over themselves to get rid of them in the "betrayed by VW" camp, they will be snatched up quick by enterprising buyers.
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:58 AM
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I think it all depends on whether or not the fix is good and how it will be enforced.
I have to agree. I like my 15 Passat TDI but its going to depend on what the wash looks like after the settle this. Now VW has already sent (made available) to me a "we are sorry" gift of $500 VISA $500 at VW for anything and 3yrs of Roadside. So it must be a big deal to get this fixed right.
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:17 AM
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I think it all depends on whether or not the fix is good and how it will be enforced.
When the fix is available the hand wringing hysteria will vanish overnight. Only state that will enforce it is CA and a few others that follow the same registration procedures. That will be great because the rest of the owners can watch and see how the cars perform.

Personally i will probably have it done

The level of hypocrisy about this is amusing considering how many states dont bother with emissions testing and how many people rip emissions equipment off their vehicles anyway.

Meanwhile over on fredstdi you new users raging that VW isnt giving them enough money for betraying them after they already removed their DPF ect. Its a joke
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:19 AM
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I have to agree. I like my 15 Passat TDI but its going to depend on what the wash looks like after the settle this. Now VW has already sent (made available) to me a "we are sorry" gift of $500 VISA $500 at VW for anything and 3yrs of Roadside. So it must be a big deal to get this fixed right.
Our passats with the adblue should be a lot easier to fix. I expect recall notices for the easier to repair models first
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:35 AM
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Our passats with the adblue should be a lot easier to fix. I expect recall notices for the easier to repair models first
That's another question. The Blue - mine has 8K miles and it doesn't to appear to ever used any................ This is the first diesel vehicle I have owned that used blue urea.
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:58 AM
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That's another question. The Blue - mine has 8K miles and it doesn't to appear to ever used any................ This is the first diesel vehicle I have owned that used blue urea.
Me too, the wife has put almost 10k on hers since we bought it used and the dealer added some at the 40k service we had done, but i havent put any in either despite buying a gallon. I think the lack of usage is one of the VW cheat methods. Im sure it will go way up when the recalls happen

Note: fill it up yourself before a scheduled dealer service. They made a hell of a mess with the urea in our trunk. Ive been reading how this is chronic with dealers putting in urea. Then it crystalizes and has to be cleaned. Wife was pissed since it went to the dealer directly after being detailed on a used car lot
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Lack of demand for diesels in US

Short memories are the key to this one.

Remember the threads about all of the deisel cars/trucks coming next year, year after year. When they didn't come the story was that there was no demand for diesels in the US.

It was a different story if you tried to buy one. You pay a premium. It will be in the future also.

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Old 11-18-2015, 11:15 AM
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Man I was really hoping to score a cheap DSG TDI and flash the ecu. I can hope...


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Old 11-18-2015, 11:28 AM
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A $500 gift card to spend at VW . . . will that cover a used TDI on the lot?

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