It is my understanding that the generation 2 (2015-2016) Genesis uses a transmission built by Hyundai. If this is true, I'm sure it is a copy of something else, maybe the ZF 8 speed.

PaulM

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Hyundai has come a long way. They were absolute crap for a very long time but have steadily improved. The Japanese were always afraid they would start building good cars because they would start taking market share.

I really like the looks of select Hyundai models but as a whole they don't check all the boxes for me. German cars still do it for me but then I usually buy much higher end models, think high hp forced induction V12's & V8's, where Hyundai just doesn't compete. They will someday have big HP numbers and exciting engines but not yet.

No misteak really. Variety and consumption make the economy function. For example us older folks like myself in general do not participate as much as we once did. Plus are increasing in numbers in the north American scene percentagewise at a pretty good clip.

Given the time span involved my comment is almost worthless nevertheless I'm still going to make it. I'm pretty sure you won't be saying that in 14 years about your Hyundai.

- Peter.

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2021 Chevrolet Spark
Formerly...
2000 GMC Sonoma
1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021
2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels
1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles.
1984 123 200
1979 116 280S
1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S

After reviewing the thread, I'm quoting your original post here, and saying now that since you're in your 70s, and probably won't be putting just a lot of miles on it, that you'll probably be at least satisfied with your decision made here.

I'd sure like any Updates you'd care to make about the car as time goes by - both positive and negative., if you'd choose to? Thanks, and enjoy that car!

pj67coll,
In 14 years I will be 86 years old and if I CAN complain about the Genesis I will consider myself lucky.

Skid Row Joe,
So far we have put 1000 miles on the genesis and we are still very happy with it. We still have the SEL and probably always will. I will say that the seats in the SEL are more comfortable then the Genesis.
The only problem with the SEL is its age. It does require more TLC and it is getting harder for me to keep it up. Parts are getting harder to get. I can get just about anything I need but it may take a long time to get it. Thats not a good thing if you are traveling 3000 miles from home and need a critical part. Also not a good thing if there is an emergency and you need it now.
I will give updates as time goes on, good or bad.

PaulM

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Just wondering if you've ever considered (or owned.....) any of the MB diesel-cars? I am very well pleased with my 06 E320 CDI, however, if you're an MB sedan gasoline fan, there's several newer models since your '80s SEL was manufactured to consider - perhaps as more dependable than that vintage. I will say this, @ 6'0" / 200 lbs. the W211 is a lot more comfortable seating than my last MB, a W210. Just IMO.

As promised, here is an update on the leased 2016 Genesis. I hate to say this on the greatest MB forum on the web, but I must.

I love this Genesis. We made a trip around the country and we loved every one of the 8416 miles and 21 days we traveled. The car is great. We averaged 28.1 mpg for the trip. Has far more power than the 500SEL when needed. We had no problems. The car is confortable and quiet. It handles like it is on rails. After we learned how to use it, the GPS was great. We just could not ask for anything more.

I still love my 500SEL and it is still part of the family, just reduced duties.

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Nice to hear you really like it. We wanted to take some trips this summer ourselves. Your fuel millage for the size of the car does sound decent as well.

Currently the wife has a really bad back I hope they can repair. So the trips are currently on the back burner.

barry12345
That is why we bought a new car. We want to travel while we still can. I am 73 and the wife is 71. We wanted something we could trust. I feel a used car is always a gamble. I always wonder why a car was traded in. Did it have problems? Was it wrecked but not reported? I once traded in a Buick that got the frame warped from a pot hole and could not be aligned. You couldn't tell it until you put about 3000 miles on a set of tires and they would be worn out.
The Genesis has a 10year/100k mile power train warranty and 5year/60K bumper to bumper warranty. Hyundai wouldn't give that kind of warranty if they thought it would not last that long. So far, after 14K+ miles the car has been flawless.

I hope your wife's back gets better and can travel again and enjoy life. Judy has had sugary on her back 3 times and is doing good now.

We have learned the best way to travel is to go off season so it is not crowded and prices are less. We make plans for where we want to go. We leave home with NO reservations. We stop when we want and stay there as long as we like. We try to travel back roads so we see more. About 3 or 4 in the afternoon Judy will put Comfort Inn in the GPS and we head there. If they are full (usually not) we go to the next one or look around and see what else is there. We take food and stop at grocery stores and get things you can cook in a microwave. If we see a restaurant that looks good we will stop there. In other words, the trips are fun, not stressful.

Our next trip (at this time) will be a nice drive to Alaska. It is only about 4500 miles one way.

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About two months ago, I took a part-time job as a sale day driver for Manheim Auto Auctions. In one day I may drive 30 or 40 different cars for up to 1/4 mile. It is a fun job for a gearhead and I learned one abiding fact (or two).

Any POS new car regardless how cheap is good for at least 200k miles anymore. The days of flathead Fords needing rebuild at 40k miles are gone as is the feeling of panic as your car approaches 100k miles. The only factor affecting durability is maintenance. I have seen cars of the same brand and year, including MB, that can be junk or pristine at the same mileage depending on the care given.

Although I love my '88 300CE...and it still turns heads and gets compliments, I'm now into my second Cadillac lease. The first one was a 2012 CTS. Black 3.0 V6. 39 month lease. "Traded" it in on a 2014 ATS after 36 months with 28k on the odo. Car was in excellent condition but I wanted something newer. I had a 36,000 mileage limit so no problem there. The rub was I got a lease termination charge from the finance company US Leasing. Never did bother to find out if this was because I turned it in with 3 months left on the lease.

The ATS has had two recalls, or maybe 3, I'm not sure. BS things with the overhead switch and the rear defroster wiring. I only have a 30,000 mile limit on this car. I'm halfway home and have only 15,400 miles on the car.
What I like is the comfort of knowing I don't pay for nuthin' for maintenance. The CTS cost me 12.00 over 3 years... new wiper blades. The ATS after 18 months = $0.00.

When this lease is up, I'll wait till the end and go lease another car. Probably not another Caddy. BTDT. Never had a BMW.

Pmck, I'm only a few miles behind you on the highway of life. Do you know if there are death clauses in auto leases that permit returning the car to the leasing company in the event of death without penalty?

Dynalow,
This is my first lease. I had planed to pay cash for the car, but the sales manager showed me how I could save by leasing. I may lease a new one when the 36 month lease is up or buy this one.
I have no idea about what happens in case of a death, I do know my wife will be OK if it happens. One of the things that steered me toward the Genesis was the safety ratings. The warranty was #2 reason. The car will be under warranty til I am 83. If I make it that far I will get her another new car with a long warranty and good safety ratings.

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Reason I ask is because I'm single at the moment. Had my pacemaker read last week and was told I'd had a pacing event on May 30. First one I've ever had. HR started to race so the pacemaker sped up the rhythm to restore sinus rhythm. Only lasted a few seconds and I recall it happening at the time. . On a happier note, the battery still has 8 1/2 years left on it..... if I make it that far too.

Speaking of the 10 year warranty, tell you a story. I was down at a Harley Davidson HOG chapter officer training session in Johnson City TN in 2001 or 2002. A guy from up north (Minnesota iirc) asks the then president of Harley Davidson, Jim McCaslin, why Harley didn't have a warranty longer than one year, cause the riders up north have shorter riding seasons. His reply was " Hyundai needs a 10 year warranty to sell cars".
I'll give Hyundai this: They have sure come a long way in a short time.

When my wife and I lease cars we don't put both our names on the lease. My wife has her name on the lease for her car and I have my name on the lease for my car. That way, if one of us dies, the surviving spouse is not responsible for the lease on the others car. The lease company just comes and takes back the car. Another advantage of leasing.