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Old 01-08-2016, 01:48 AM
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Old 01-08-2016, 04:28 PM
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Their screwed, their socialist system are going to collapse under all the dead weight.


What they should do is hand every able body male between the ages of 15-60 an AK and a few MRE's and bus them back to their country's border.

Like the ones our dear leader took in. I'd fully support handing them AR15's (hey American made!) and a one way plane ticket back to Syria.
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Old 01-08-2016, 04:36 PM
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I am surprised there's only one comments so far, considering the content of this video.


I'm of the opinion every able bodied male without family should be excluded. The request for asylum is, you apply at the FIRST safe country you get to.
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I've seen that a quite a few others. People here don't care.

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I'm of the opinion every able bodied male without family should be excluded. The request for asylum is, you apply at the FIRST safe country you get to.
Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one. No -- you try to go where you have a support network (of other immigrants from your part of the world) and won't starve to death looking for work.

Male or female, there's nothing wrong or shameful with fleeing dangerous conditions in a failed state. No one chose to be born where they were, and patriotism to lost causes is an overrated concept. It was your kind of attitude that got a lot of Jews slaughtered during WW II. "They should stay and fight, we sure don't want 'em, the Germans aren't REALLY that bad, blah, blah, blah."

People flap their yap-holes a lot about "giving them an AK and sending them home", but without training, they'll just end up with a bullet in their heads and the Adversary will have an extra AK per refugee sent home. At best, you'll end up with another Bay of Pigs.

And the level of education among people fleeing the slaughter in Syria is actually quite high. Exactly the kind of people whom the West SHOULD be taking:
http://www.ibtimes.com/europe-refugee-crisis-facts-wealthy-educated-syrians-risking-lives-leave-war-2089018

The knee-jerk crowd should engage their brain before yapping.
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Too large a picture for many like myself to really get their minds around. Combined with the fragile state of the majority of the worlds economies. It is not a very good overall picture.

Also there may be some issues with calling people that really want to bring their culture into a foreign environment just immigrants. If there are too large a group they can form a new core in a country. If they do not wish to integrate at all with the existing population could prove a disaster.

Germany stated it needed new population growth. They are affluent enough to have gotten it by simple attracting a widespread selection of people with less potential problems.

It is hard to say this but Trump may have got it right. He has said before the leadership of Germany may have made a serious error. Time will tell.

We had a period in my time when Canada took in a lot of Italians. They initially formed into their own culture group as this was enabled by the shear numbers of them. Fortunatly they were peace loving people with no axes to grind. So over time they fully integrated into the Canadian society.

It seems the middle eastern males have issues in many areas that are not consistant with many other societies today. The extremes of religious dogma are also a big issue.

I think moslems that have peacefully settled into strange enviroments culturally alien to them. Are all too aware of some of these issues presenting. They have no wish to bear the backlash that may occur but unfortunately they know it may be coming.

Also the issue of getting and maintaining control over large numbers of refugees flowing seems to be very hard to do. We will be sponsoring one middle eastern family into our small area we hear. I hope they are Christians. As otherwise there is no similar culture at all locally.

They will either move to where it is in Canada or return to the middle east if it where to truly settle down. This is a pretty safe bet. If the wife and myself where displaced by events. We probably would try to return once things settled down.

We are familiar with and part of the local culture and enjoy living here. Life in many other areas of Canada would be a poor substitute. Another country that may have a natural bias towards us by the general population. Is not the preffered option.

The railway incidents have already cast a shadow on the mid eastern asylum seekers. It is hard to again get a picture of the participants other than visualizing an attempt to display some of their cultural values.

My culture respects females or at least is and has been learning to treat them much better. There is no way I could join a group making them extremely uncomforatable if not worse.

I even suspect the women of their own culture may shun them in the new environment. The male macho thing in behavior and control towards females has been greatly reduced in most modern cultures.

The paricipants at the railway stations were all too aware of what they were doing. In my opinion they were challenging the existing behaviours of the population. It was semi organized after all. Deporting all that participated is not a bad ideal but perhaps not workable.

They ultimately would just come back in unless shipped a long way away. Not getting rid of them presents real trouble down the road from at least some of them.

All I suspect or am pretty sure of is at the moment the midnight oil is burning in the German government over what they are going to do. Even their police forces must be insisting this may be a potential nightmare.

Of course the probability is a small percentage spoiling it for the rest. This has historically been quoted as a few bad apples spoiling the barrel full. A guess at the percentage is probably going to be the German governments prime concern. It already must be the minds of the German population.

Canada is not risking that much by taking 25,000 refugees in. The vast majority if not all will be proven Christians and no single males other than a perhaps a few select ones that are highly qualified in some way. Even those will have to be proven Christians I suspect.

The potential good is they may start a lot of small business as it has become very risky for long term Canadians to try anymore. Guys like myself fully realize how controlled everything retail wise has become by corporations.

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Remember that Italians were seen as rabble, gangsters, thugs, unintelligent scum, or worse in early-20th century North America. Irish and Eastern Europeans were also seen as dirt at various times.

Give the Middle Easterners a generation or so and they will integrate.
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Old 01-08-2016, 07:06 PM
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Remember that Italians were seen as rabble, gangsters, thugs, unintelligent scum, or worse in early-20th century North America. Irish and Eastern Europeans were also seen as dirt at various times.

Give the Middle Easterners a generation or so and they will integrate.
Your wrong. Majority will never integrate. There have been Pakistani populations in Southall and Bradford were I worked in the 1960's and the 1980's, and both are no go area for non Pakistanis.

Rochdale, same, Birmingham, same, Luton is hot bed of Islamic radicals.
I have been to St Dennis too, another place dangerous for non Muslims.

There is no incentive to integrate. Unless you have 1st hand knowledge that's different ? The video gives you the fanaticism these thugs use to intimidate and destroy European culture........and don't give me any bs about enforcing multiculturalism. "They" don't want that...they want it their way or no way.

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Well it really disturbed me that one affluent mid eastern family male head in Canada. Decided to kill almost his whole family rather than see them adopt or exercise any Canadian culture.

He of course fought the prosecution for the deed thinking he had covered his ass. Fortunatly he was not clever enough.

What really bothered me is his taking no personal responsibility for what he did. To him it must have seemed some cultural norm that was his entitlement. We Canadians in general had never seemed extremes like this before with any other immigration group.

My guess is he will spend the rest of his life locked up and not unhappy about what he did. He also will remain fairly wealthy for what good it does him. He also got his son to participate and ruined his life as well.
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Well it really disturbed me that one affluent mid eastern family male head in Canada. Decided to kill almost his whole family rather than see them adopt or exercise any Canadian culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_List#Murders

"In a five-page letter to his pastor, found on the desk in his study, he wrote that he saw too much evil in the world, and he had killed his family to save their souls."

Psychopathic murdering nutters aren't confined to any one faith.
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Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one. No -- you try to go where you have a support network (of other immigrants from your part of the world) and won't starve to death looking for work.

Male or female, there's nothing wrong or shameful with fleeing dangerous conditions in a failed state. No one chose to be born where they were, and patriotism to lost causes is an overrated concept. It was your kind of attitude that got a lot of Jews slaughtered during WW II. "They should stay and fight, we sure don't want 'em, the Germans aren't REALLY that bad, blah, blah, blah."

People flap their yap-holes a lot about "giving them an AK and sending them home", but without training, they'll just end up with a bullet in their heads and the Adversary will have an extra AK per refugee sent home. At best, you'll end up with another Bay of Pigs.

And the level of education among people fleeing the slaughter in Syria is actually quite high. Exactly the kind of people whom the West SHOULD be taking:
Europe Refugee Crisis Facts: Wealthy, Educated Syrians Risking Lives To Leave War

The knee-jerk crowd should engage their brain before yapping.
You need to look at military history a bit.

Vietnam, our 10 years in the middle east, the Soviet invasion of Afgahnistan, the partisan groups in Yugoslavia and other baltic states in WW2, partisan groups in France.

Farmers with guns have proven to be a most effective military force.
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Their screwed, their socialist system are going to collapse under all the dead weight.


What they should do is hand every able body male between the ages of 15-60 an AK and a few MRE's and bus them back to their country's border.

Like the ones our dear leader took in. I'd fully support handing them AR15's (hey American made!) and a one way plane ticket back to Syria.
A great idea.
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Old 01-10-2016, 08:31 AM
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The London editor of Vanity Fair was on morning Joe Friday talking about his piece on the EU's current challenges. Sobering and very interesting.
Differences abound between North and South....and East and West countries of EU.
"It's very hard to be positive about the EU after current developments...."
The crisis ahead for the EU after Paris | MSNBC

Too little assimilation of immigrants + greater birth rates = Growing Trouble in River City. Europe's days as a continent of peace and freedom may indeed be on the wane. My $.02.

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