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Old 12-13-2019, 10:16 AM
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I'll never see a dime of SSI because I was a contract laborer and so didn't have it deducted from my pay very often, a big mistake but when you're working for less than minimum wages and raising a family you get forced to make unwise decisions some times .

There are no taxes on RMD's, the wise move is to plow them back into more stocks, my grand daughter will be getting a nice next egg when I croak .

Tax free income is out there but it takes more capital than most middle class citizens will ever have ~ one more way the 1% has the game rigged against you so you're carrying their load .
In 2016, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid roughly $538 billion, or 37.3 percent of all income taxes, while the bottom 90 percent paid about $440 billion, or 30.5 percent of all income taxes.

https://taxfoundation.org/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2018-update/

Yeah, those rotten 1%ers never pay in any taxes.

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Old 12-13-2019, 10:24 AM
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Post Facts Vs. Dogma

Yes those ignorant boot lickers repeat every B.S. thing they hear on hate talk radio, paid for of course by the un American corporate media....

Ignorant is not knowing a thing .

STUPID is knowing a thing is false having been proven yet deciding to lie and keep repeating it anyway .

You may have you opinions no matter how foolish they make you appear in public but facts remain facts, you're not allowed to have your own .
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:28 AM
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So taxfoundation.org is making it up?
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:32 AM
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-14/top-3-of-u-s-taxpayers-paid-majority-of-income-taxes-in-2016

Is liberal Bloomberg also making it up?

Be careful pointing out who looks foolish or gullible. That mirror might not be fun to look at.
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:24 AM
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I always have fun looking in the mirror, waiting for it to crack .

I'm sure you think Brietbart is liberal too....

By definition corporate media isn't and cannot be 'liberal' as you love to claim .

We've hashed this endlessly, you refuse to face the facts, it's that simple .

One more way the 1% dodges paying massive amounts of taxes in California (the liberal state, remember ?) :

Proposition 13 was the biggest 1%er scam ever : one time regular people's property taxes were reduced, at the same time corporate taxes were frozen forever so corporations simply sell properties back and forth as assets and never have to pay higher property taxes than were due way back when...

This of course means regular folks get stuck with endless property tax increases to pay for the 1%'es failure to pay their fair share meaning that we're supporting them, not the other way 'round like you claim .

Try to lie your way out of that one, the middle class has always supported the 1% and you well know it .
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Old 12-13-2019, 12:01 PM
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All that unfair taxation! And yet we still have an annual deficit of $1 trillion. I guess the most appropriate thing would be to starve off the bottom half to make things balance out.
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Old 12-13-2019, 01:35 PM
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I always have fun looking in the mirror, waiting for it to crack .

I'm sure you think Brietbart is liberal too....

By definition corporate media isn't and cannot be 'liberal' as you love to claim .

We've hashed this endlessly, you refuse to face the facts, it's that simple .

One more way the 1% dodges paying massive amounts of taxes in California (the liberal state, remember ?) :

Proposition 13 was the biggest 1%er scam ever : one time regular people's property taxes were reduced, at the same time corporate taxes were frozen forever so corporations simply sell properties back and forth as assets and never have to pay higher property taxes than were due way back when...

This of course means regular folks get stuck with endless property tax increases to pay for the 1%'es failure to pay their fair share meaning that we're supporting them, not the other way 'round like you claim .

Try to lie your way out of that one, the middle class has always supported the 1% and you well know it .
I think you are offering one of the most hilarious arguments ever seen on this forum. The FACTS are very clear in black and white from numerous sources. You refuse to acknowledge them based on who knows what conspiracy theory and claim that anyone believing them is a fool.

What a riot!

I do, however want to sincerely retract any comments that were directly demeaning. The facts speak for themselves I will leave them to you and anyone to look up and evaluate. Everyone has every right in the world to evaluate based on whatever they choose, conspiracy theory, distrust of the numerous sources or whatever basis they choose.

Merry Christmas.
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Old 12-13-2019, 01:42 PM
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All that unfair taxation! And yet we still have an annual deficit of $1 trillion. I guess the most appropriate thing would be to starve off the bottom half to make things balance out.
IMHO the most appropriate solution would be to cut spending. Over the years when my budget was running at a deficit, that was the only method that would get it under control. Sometimes you have to eat beans and spam for a while and just ride it out.

My biggest disappointment with Trump has been his inaction in moving us toward a balanced budget.
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Old 12-13-2019, 04:48 PM
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IMHO the most appropriate solution would be to cut spending. Over the years when my budget was running at a deficit, that was the only method that would get it under control. Sometimes you have to eat beans and spam for a while and just ride it out.

My biggest disappointment with Trump has been his inaction in moving us toward a balanced budget.

Agreed. We can start with military spending.
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Old 12-13-2019, 06:27 PM
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Oh, you don’t like the cost of freedom?

I can’t remember who proposed it a few years ago but whoever it was proposed that ALL AGENCIES cut their spending by 10%, then after that year, cut it another 10% and then the next year cut 8% and so forth. The numbers might not be right, but you get the idea. I don’t think there is a branch or agency that couldn’t cut 10%. Their level of waste is at least that much.
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Old 12-14-2019, 10:11 AM
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In 2016, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid roughly $538 billion, or 37.3 percent of all income taxes, while the bottom 90 percent paid about $440 billion, or 30.5 percent of all income taxes.

https://taxfoundation.org/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2018-update/

Yeah, those rotten 1%ers never pay in any taxes.
You realize that this is about SS taxes, not income taxes?

If you were an actual one percenter, you would.


Up next, how unfair it is that road users have to pay road use taxes.
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Old 12-14-2019, 03:24 PM
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Not sure what you’re discussing but Nate and I were discussing Federal tax rather than the actual subject of SS benefits age. SS is not really of much consequence to the Uber wealthy.
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Old 12-17-2019, 12:23 PM
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Agreed. We can start with military spending.
I sure agree with cutting the military spending. We sure don't need what, 11 aircraft carrier battle groups? Troops in Afghanistan, Europe, Japan, the Middle East and Korea can all come home. Close more bases at home. Lots of things worthy of cutting.

I suggest matching military cuts, dollar-for-dollar, with entitlement cuts. That way everybody loses their pet black hole equally.
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Old 12-17-2019, 12:46 PM
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I sure agree with cutting the military spending. We sure don't need what, 11 aircraft carrier battle groups? Troops in Afghanistan, Europe, Japan, the Middle East and Korea can all come home. Close more bases at home. Lots of things worthy of cutting.

I suggest matching military cuts, dollar-for-dollar, with entitlement cuts. That way everybody loses their pet black hole equally.
Which entitlement cuts do you favor? The ones for the rich, the ones for the poor, or the ones for the middle class? How do you even define an entitlement? Are farm subsidies entitlements? Flood and crop insurance, are they entitlements? Are Tricare, Medicare, and Medicaid entitlements? Some of them, all of them, what?

Everything depends upon whose ox gets gored.
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Old 12-17-2019, 06:45 PM
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Which entitlement cuts do you favor? The ones for the rich, the ones for the poor, or the ones for the middle class? How do you even define an entitlement? Are farm subsidies entitlements? Flood and crop insurance, are they entitlements? Are Tricare, Medicare, and Medicaid entitlements? Some of them, all of them, what?

Everything depends upon whose ox gets gored.
I already answered this. Cut them ALL!

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