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barry12345 · #61 07-25-2016, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

It is a common problem. Over on the TDI forum folks say they have not found any cure except getting used to the worthless torque available under 1000 rpm. It seems as if the engine computer deliberately shuts down the motor if the rpm gets below "X". It never seems like it should die and doesn't even lug or anything.

I still think this should be a minor fix and am surprised the manufacturer is not making it. What they claim is the cause of it makes sense though.

I still would contact the company and tell them you think it may be a safety issue. Asking if they can do anything about it.

Generally speaking a customer cannot really contact the company other than a paid for external call center. A good dealer just may have the issue resolved though.

Basically good dealers can help if they wish on many things. The company call center is basically instructed to just say no to almost everything. That's unless things have changed since I dealt with them

Canadians got the same call center Americans did although I had no ideal of what country it was located in back then. Their cars are supported far more at the good dealer level than by the manufacture. Some dealers are as bad as the company at the same time. You have to ask around.

t walgamuth · #62 07-25-2016, 11:27 PM

I'll give the local dealer a call.

t walgamuth · #63 08-28-2016, 02:49 PM

I got an email the other day about the emission fix etc. Didn't read it. Anybody read their email re it?

joegolden · #64 08-28-2016, 04:14 PM

My in laws received their buy back offer a few weeks back. It's pretty aggressive offer. They are going to take the offer and then buy just a new Passat tsi. The thing is we don't know when?! Dragging it out. However when they do get their buy out They can take there $12000 over their payoff and have a hell of a down payment. The Passat is really a great car! I loved my 2015 but just traded for the new sportwagen. I have had 3 new volkswagens now since 2014. The rebates are insane. I got $5750 off sticker of my sportwagen

t walgamuth · #65 08-28-2016, 06:50 PM

I'll have to dig that out and have a look at it.

Thanks Joe!

tjts1 · #66 08-28-2016, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by joegolden

My in laws received their buy back offer a few weeks back. It's pretty aggressive offer. They are going to take the offer and then buy just a new Passat tsi. The thing is we don't know when?! Dragging it out. However when they do get their buy out They can take there $12000 over their payoff and have a hell of a down payment. The Passat is really a great car! I loved my 2015 but just traded for the new sportwagen. I have had 3 new volkswagens now since 2014. The rebates are insane. I got $5750 off sticker of my sportwagen

So your in laws have learned nothing.

t walgamuth · #67 08-29-2016, 05:23 AM

They no doubt liked the car and if its legal to buy another they will with a deep discount. Lets face it, most folks probably view this emission flap about in the same moral light as running five mph over the posted speed limit.

t walgamuth · #68 09-10-2016, 10:05 AM

I looked at the website yesterday. Looks like I am well down the feed line on this since I bought it after september of 2015. If I understand it correctly I can get $2250 but presumably have to submit the car for modification to get it.....so depending on what people say about the conversion I may just keep it as is and get nothing.

pj67coll · #69 09-12-2016, 12:10 AM

I think diesel's are done in passenger cars. Renault who is one of the biggest diesel manufacturers in Europe just announced that they won't be building more in future as you can't meet new emissions requirements. I recall seeing some comments from Mercedes some time back questioning the continued production of diesels in future if new "cleaner" alternatives become available. I recall when Mazda brought out the new 3 and 6 a couple of years ago there was a lot of speculation in the press about when they'd equip them with their new diesels but it never happened because the emissions requirements simply couldn't be met. VW, dumb-asses that they are simply decided to cheat.

- Peter.

barry12345 · #70 09-12-2016, 01:37 AM

The possible demise of the diesel passenger car would not be worldwide I suspect. Depends just how complex they will have to be to meet current and future requirements. If they will remain in much of Europe and north America should be considered..

What I did notice several years back. A loaded full size passenger bus could obtain eight or a little more miles per Canadian gallon. Yet the weighed vastly more and had massive air resistance compared to the average small car.

I thought at the time why are the diesel cars not doing better than they are in fuel consumption? My truck weighed at least five times more empty and again had massive air resistance but could manage ten miles per Canadian gallon. The engine had a nine liters capacity.

t walgamuth · #71 09-12-2016, 06:46 AM

different emission requirements?

JB3 · #72 09-12-2016, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

I looked at the website yesterday. Looks like I am well down the feed line on this since I bought it after september of 2015. If I understand it correctly I can get $2250 but presumably have to submit the car for modification to get it.....so depending on what people say about the conversion I may just keep it as is and get nothing.

Ill let you know on my end. I opted for a fix and am proceeding in that direction. Love the car.

I stopped going on tdiclub for info, too many shrieky greedballs. I never would have thought we shared diesel interest with so many screaming infants who want everything in their life paid for by vw now. Depressing.

TwitchKitty · #73 09-12-2016, 12:43 PM

An announcement that you are the largest auto manufacturer in the world seems to be a harbinger of bad times.

tjts1 · #74 09-12-2016, 06:15 PM

Indictment: Volkswagen Updated Emissions Cheat in 2014, Hid it From EPA and CARB

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As the EA 189 engines aged, VW started experiencing increased warranty claims on the emissions control systems for those motors, apparently the result of emissions testing of consumers’ cars in emissions-strict states like California. VW announced to customers and the public in 2014 that they were going to update software in customers’ cars as a fix for those warranty claims. In fact, the software update was intended not to fix the cars but rather to update the software cheat so it would read steering wheel angle to more accurately detect when the car was being emissions tested.

It’s not entirely clear from the indictment, but it’s possible the update may have helped the defeat device work when the cars underwent annual state testing. It’s also possible the update to the cheat was intended to reduce warranty costs. One purpose of the software update, according to the indictment, was to “reduce the stress on the emissions control systems,” which I believe means reduce the amount of time the engine was running in compliant mode.

Following the publication of the ICCT commissioned study, CARB, in conjunction with the EPA, started asking VW more detailed and specific questions, as well as performing their own testing. The indictment alleges that in response to those inquiries, VW made false and fraudulent statements to the EPA and CARB when providing data, test results and presentations, making it appear that the non-compliant emissions were due to innocent mechanical and technological problems. That deliberate obfuscation was also charged to be criminal.

The full article is a hell of an indictment of VW and some of its employees. The arrogance exhibited makes you wonder where else VW is cheating or how far back the cheating culture goes. This was not their first rodeo.

JB3 · #75 09-13-2016, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tjts1

Indictment: Volkswagen Updated Emissions Cheat in 2014, Hid it From EPA and CARB

The full article is a hell of an indictment of VW and some of its employees. The arrogance exhibited makes you wonder where else VW is cheating or how far back the cheating culture goes. This was not their first rodeo.

They cheated once before in the 70s. A dozen manufacturers cheated in the US and were caught and fined. Ford, honda, cadillac, lots of heavy truck manufacturers, ect ect. The list goes on forever.
99 was a big year for emissions fraud crack downs.