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Old 07-05-2017, 11:43 PM
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Well, considering there's no assigned parking at this place, I "stole" it like a thief in the night.

I rent-to-own a house in a blue-collar suburban area and the apartments nearby usually have people that could could care less about a vacant parking spot with a nice looking Mercedes considering most of the kids in high school in our area are out shooting heroin or doing percosets. I think they have more to worry about than me putting a car in a spot across from my friends apartment that has about 15 open spots and maybe 3 cars in it.
You seem to be confused that the renters own the parking lot. 1 or 1000 open spaces, you are parking on private property and attempting to justify this theft of services by saying there is plenty of room for you to steal.

Whether or not tenants of the apartment complex care is irrelevant. Depending on how its run, the car could be there years or be towed overnight. You have no leg to stand on though if it is indeed towed.

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Old 07-06-2017, 12:25 AM
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At some point, this boils down a question of right vs. wrong. There is no question here - what you've done is wrong on at least two fronts: registration & insurance that are required, you don't have and parking the car where you have no legal right to park it.

Every time you try to explain why you won't get caught or why nobody will care that you're not doing what is right, you're telling the world a little bit more about your integrity.

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Old 07-06-2017, 12:40 AM
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How did your little stealing a parking space scheme work out?
"all schemes are equal, some schemes are more equal than others"

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Old 07-06-2017, 01:49 AM
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You seem to be confused that the renters own the parking lot. 1 or 1000 open spaces, you are parking on private property and attempting to justify this theft of services by saying there is plenty of room for you to steal.

Whether or not tenants of the apartment complex care is irrelevant. Depending on how its run, the car could be there years or be towed overnight. You have no leg to stand on though if it is indeed towed.
Nope, the renters don't own the parking lot. The parking lot is owned by the complex owner. Considering some of the "parking lot owners" are there because of government funding (my taxes) who cares what they say if they did have the right? They don't pay for parking anyway. If it was towed in that situation, I'd have to pay to get the car back and it'd be my fault 100%. Did it save me money I didn't have? Yup, it did.

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At some point, this boils down a question of right vs. wrong. There is no question here - what you've done is wrong on at least two fronts: registration & insurance that are required, you don't have and parking the car where you have no legal right to park it.

Every time you try to explain why you won't get caught or why nobody will care that you're not doing what is right, you're telling the world a little bit more about your integrity.

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I think this situation is being taken waaay toooo far into light considering it's now "stealing" and a question of integrity when parking a vehicle and drive it two miles when you had to re-do a driveway.
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Old 07-06-2017, 06:42 AM
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Nope, the renters don't own the parking lot. The parking lot is owned by the complex owner. Considering some of the "parking lot owners" are there because of government funding (my taxes) who cares what they say if they did have the right? They don't pay for parking anyway. If it was towed in that situation, I'd have to pay to get the car back and it'd be my fault 100%. Did it save me money I didn't have? Yup, it did.


I think this situation is being taken waaay toooo far into light considering it's now "stealing" and a question of integrity when parking a vehicle and drive it two miles when you had to re-do a driveway.
Yes, the renters dont own the parking lot, the complex owner does. What do your taxes have to do with the complex owners property?

If you can afford to pave a driveway, you can afford to properly store a vehicle without trying to sneak it on someone elses property and driving it down a public road uninsured and unregistered. End of story. The rest is justifying your actions.
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I think this situation is being taken waaay toooo far into light considering it's now "stealing" and a question of integrity when parking a vehicle and drive it two miles when you had to re-do a driveway.
Thank you for proving my point so succinctly.

Right is right and wrong is wrong. Period.

Breaking a law (license and reg) isn't defined by how long you continue to break it. You either comply or you don't.

Theft (parking in a lot you have no right to) isn't defined by scale (you won't get the same penalty for stealing a candy bar as a Cadillac or a carpenter's time, but they're all theft).

I'd suggest there isn't a single person who has never down the wrong thing.

Integrity is (among many other things) owning your decision decision to do the wrong thing instead of trying to excuse it or define it as "right" just because you didn't get caught or it was only a little thing.

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Old 07-06-2017, 10:26 PM
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Yes, the renters dont own the parking lot, the complex owner does. What do your taxes have to do with the complex owners property?

If you can afford to pave a driveway, you can afford to properly store a vehicle without trying to sneak it on someone elses property and driving it down a public road uninsured and unregistered. End of story. The rest is justifying your actions.
But I thought the apartment renters owned the parking lot? You just told me they did? I responded by saying my tax dollars pay half of the apartment renters monthly due, so I can park in their "reserved" spot if I felt like it since I pay for it? It's up to the owner however long he decides I can do that.
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But I thought the apartment renters owned the parking lot? You just told me they did? I responded by saying my tax dollars pay half of the apartment renters monthly due, so I can park in their "reserved" spot if I felt like it since I pay for it? It's up to the owner however long he decides I can do that.
Technically, no you cannot park in their reserved spot because they do not recognize you as a valid person allowed to park in their spot. Would you allow somebody to park in your (newly finished) driveway using an unregistered vehicle in a car cover?

To answer your original question about towing: YES they have the authority to tow your unregistered vehicle especially if somebody complains and your friend isn't anywhere to be found to explain things. You need to go one step further and get agreement with the property manager, preferably in writing.

This is a classic example of risking a buck to save a penny.
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Old 07-07-2017, 06:22 AM
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But I thought the apartment renters owned the parking lot? You just told me they did? I responded by saying my tax dollars pay half of the apartment renters monthly due, so I can park in their "reserved" spot if I felt like it since I pay for it? It's up to the owner however long he decides I can do that.
Nope. I said you seem to be confused that the renters have some authority over the parking lot, as you continually justify your actions by saying they wouldnt care. What they think is irrelevant, as i said. You further justify your actions by claiming your tax dollars pay their rent, so you should be allowed to stash an unplated vehicle on someone elses private property.

Own it and stop coming up with weasely justifications. People wouldnt be commenting if you werent making such an attempt to claim you have a right to do whatever you want "because".

You dont. Park the car there and take responsibility for taking the risk of it getting towed to save a few bucks. Drive the vehicle on public roads unregistered and uninsured and take responsibility for that risk as well.

The answer to your question would be simple if you werent evading inexpensive insurance and registration fees to save a few bucks on that end as well. In that case you could easily leave your car in the apartment complex guest parking for a few days and not worry about it being towed.

In the end what you are presenting to us is an original question of what recourse you have if someone tows an illegally parked car off their private property that was illegally driven there, and its presence lied about by saying an apartment dweller owns it, AND attempted to be concealed with a car cover. The answer as you know full well, is none. Word of warning, a towed unregistered vehicle is often very difficult to recover from a lot.

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