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Isn’t that the truth? You can’t even see to back out of a parking space because everyone has a huge four door pick up with no hitch and has never had anything loaded in the bed. Big, expensive trucks for passenger cars is the current fad. Tesla has missed the market.
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Maybe where you guys are, EVs are excellent where I am. I'd have bought a model s if we had a place for a charging port but no driveway or garage means nowhere to charge a car. And as far as popularity, I see multiple model s's and usually an x or two daily. Plenty of pickups here too, but mostly for show. My beat up explorer has probably hauled more rock than most of the 350/0s
If they can produce a decent midsize EV for 35k with 200 range or so, it's a game changer. With acceptable quality of course, which has been an issue too.
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We are agreeing. Scary huh? That doesn’t mean I am interested in an electric car, but one in that price range would be sellable.
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Electric bikes/motorcycles are a thing too. I'm currently building an electric bike that I've found has way too much torque to handle, using standard lithium ion cells (same cell form as in teslas) that will rival a lot of small motorcycles and scooters. Same thing...no gas, durable, simple and dependable.
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Tesla's are very popular here in Northern CA! A friend who works for Tesla actually just received her Model 3, and it's a pretty impressive unit. The parking lot at work has quite a few Model S's and X's! I've actually considered buying a used Model S, but can't justify it as I don't have a way to charge it here at home. They're relatively bulletproof with the 8 year warranty, and can be had for a song on the used market.
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All the EV community will agree to this statement that Toyota has the best technology in the electric car market.The Tesla product has styling and pazazz along with a marketeer who brings his A game but I see a partnership infusion needed here ,this to sure up this shop before it goes off the shelf .Large Car industries have been around for a long time ,they hang their brand on every vehicle ,the Japenese market really guarantees success if its interested in a vehicle specific merger. The business meetings become alittle scary ,cutting off a finger in some circles is still practiced upon poor performance.
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The best names in the auto industry have one thing in common which is repairs support for their products.
Tesla are the absolute opposite of this model of business and no change is in sight.
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The electric car revolution
How popular are electric cars? Right now, they make up just 1 percent of the global automobile market. But sales jumped 36 percent last year, to 750,000 worldwide, and China, the world's largest car market, is betting big on electric. In September, Beijing announced it plans to completely ban the sale of gas and diesel vehicles at some future, unannounced date, while India, Britain, France, and other countries have set their own 2030 or 2040 deadlines. U.S. automakers are now racing to get a piece of the emerging electric market. GM and Ford have promised to roll out a combined total of more than 30 electric models by 2023...... What incentives do governments offer? In the U.S., a federal rebate program gives electric vehicle buyers a $7,500 tax credit for the first 200,000 vehicles a carmaker delivers. States offer their own generous goodies on top of that — including tax credits, free parking spots, and preferential highway lanes. China and Denmark give motorists a 23 percent and 49 percent discount on electric cars, respectively. These subsidies are crucial to the survival of the electric car market; even with the plunge in prices, lithium-ion batteries still add about $20,000 to the cost of an electric car, making plug-ins unaffordable without rebates and tax credits. But electric car proponents think they have two big factors on their side: China and basic economics. Why is China so important? The Chinese government is doubling down on electric, not just to reduce the choking smog blanketing its cities but also to help its car manufacturers Those manufacturers have already developed 100 electric models, leaving other nations' seize control of the global automobile market.automakers in the dust. Even without Beijing's push, many analysts believe that electric cars have the winning economic formula — so much so that researchers at Bloomberg New Energy Finance estimate plug-ins will make up the majority of cars worldwide by 2040. Electric vehicles (EVs) have fewer than 20 moving parts, as opposed to 2,000 in combustion engines, and thus require less maintenance. Their fuel costs are much lower. When up-front prices finally drop to below those of gas-guzzlers, says Tona Seba of technology think tank RethinkX, "the rational economic choice will be to buy the EV." |
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Tesla is still $300. What stock tumble?
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Tesla , beautiful fit and finish,
just opend a showroom across from the other "hyp" place- the apple store, they face each other across the street, the charging pumps are round back. A Tesla is a much better item than a 1000$ toy phone, but the giant media panel in the middle of the dash is totally irresponsible. |
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Horses & internal combustion engined cars shared the roads...for a little while.
Same thing is happening now with electric cars. In my opinion, internal combustion will go the way of the horse.
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electric and internal combustion engine vehicles shared the roads...for a little while.
check out these 1914 GMC electric trucks. Enclosed cabs were not standard then , just an option |
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I hate to hear that. I really want them to succeed. Someday I'll own a Tesla pickup!
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