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I would. its sedan-sized diesel (with a stick) - no one else sells those in the US.
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The Chevy Cruze sedan and hatch are both still available with a diesel and a stick. I just bought one of the sedans in April. Stick going away for 2019 (but diesel with auto staying), but can still be had for now.
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Jaguar has been offering a Diesel version of the XE for a couple of years.
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I don't know what the 'static test' is and I'm not much up on the specific procedures used in EPA testing but the amount of pollution that's going out the tailpipe is directly proportional to the amount of throttle the user is requesting with their foot. On the face of it I don't find it at all remarkable that in some facets of operation a fully certified EPA car in the real world would emit 40X the amount of pollution that it did on a test stand. A car in steady-state cruise at 30MPH is going to emit a lot less crap than one run at wide open throttle up a hill for example. I own two of the apparently 'cheating' Mercedes diesels, I have no idea if they are part of the 'cheating' scheme but I can tell you that from my perspective they seem to be pretty damn clean. These are the first Diesels I've ever owned that emit NO perceptible smoke even under extended full throttle applications at night and you never even smell the tell-tale diesel exhaust scent unless you get on your knees and stick your nose directly into the tailpipe. Seems to me like some people around here want to leave the impression that the 'cheating' diesels are rolling coal and emitting clouds of illegal smoke? Not true. How much of the '40x' increase in apparent emissions is due to 'cheating' vs the parameters of operation when the on-the-road readings were taken? Have the researchers tested a non-cheating car diesel car under the same circumstances to see if the pollution dropped to acceptable levels? Is here even a published EPA spec at the same conditions the readings were taken? Have the researches done instrumented tests on gasoline powered cars under the same conditions to see how their emissions compare to test standards? Seems like some of the questions I'd want to have answered before I started the 'cheating, cheating, cheating' mantra is I was interested in a fair presentation of the associated issues.
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Their CEO just got arrested and the peanut gallery goes "cheating? What cheating? I don't see no cheating.
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One problem with the remaining elevated pollution from volkswagons. Is that it is a very bad chemical. I finally got around to dropping by a Canadian dealer today.
It takes them nine hours labor to get the cars acceptable. They are adding a fluid fed exhaust system. Plus reprogramming the computer to leave the emission equipment in operation. So I asked the question if I purchased one can I get the computer unrestored to what it was leaving the new exhaust system operational.By an independent. He asked why I would do this? I said for a longer term Vokswagon salesperson you should know. . The so called cheating was implemented because of the massive carbon buildup problems those engines were having. Volkswagon was seeing far too many warranty claims. At the price you are asking for the reprogrammed and reworked ones. Will you in writing guarantee that the engine will not have major carbonizing problems? Well we cannot do that he states. Typically with that company always hiding something. They had an assortment of them on their lot brought up to the new standards. !9k Canadian to 22K Canadian. Our dollar is worth about thirty cents less currently than the American dollar. |
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Today I filed for a buy back. It says I'll be able to sell mine back for over 20K. I doubt it because I am not the original buyer, but filed and await the final paperwork.
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The irony is that the pollution involved in the crushing, transport, and rework of all those cars, likely far outweighs any of the "excess" pollution they would have produced had they just been left to live out their lives on the road. The production of hundreds of thousands of cars to replace them will produce vastly more pollution.
Meanwhile there's an endless amount of cars out there that run horribly and pollute as much as 50 of those TDI's put together, and tons of states (like mine) that have no emissions rules or inspections of any sort.
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