"Round them up and dispose of them"--what a horrible thing to say! It reminds me of what a particular German dictator said during World War II. These are highly intelligent animals that are capable of love and being great companions. They also suffer and feel pain. But that's what's wrong with society--animals are only valued as to the service they can provide someone.

What really needs to happen, is people need to be more responsible for their pets so they stop overpopulating, stop going to breeders every time they get a dog, and not getting a dog on a whim and then deciding, "Oh, it's just not working out anymore."

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Right, because killing is the way civil, intelligent people solve problems...

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Gotta kill if you want to grill.

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by that rationale, humans are also highly intelligent animals that are capable of love and become companions, humans also suffer and feel pain.

but as soon as a human is seen mauling another or using a weapon on another, they are put down.

why the one sidedness?

people who get dogs nowadays only want to "aww" themselves to sleep or be coochie coo with it by dressing it up in a tux or give it some 500 dollar hair cut. Once they get bored of it, they throw it away on some remote highway.

owning dogs used to be for securing the property or aide in hunting, now its just a fashion statement.

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They are stray freaken dogs not people.

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Some asian cultures particularly enjoy dog flesh. Encourage immigration from these countries, if I named them, I'd be accused of racism! Prolly be accused anyways.

Somebody posted its the owners responsibility to 'police' their dogs, these are mostly feral dogs, -> no owners.

Years ago I was visiting kin in Idaho. Not in the city. There was a dog barking one night. I asked dont people around here complain? He said: "They never bark more than a few nights, , , , , , , , Then theres a few 'missing dog' posters".

1st line above: "legal" immigration

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I'd rather not grill if it means killing an animal that doesn't want to die. Fortunately, Beyond Meat makes some fantastic hamburgers (called the beyond burger) which grill up very nicely. The Beyond BurgerŪ | The Beyond BurgerŪ | Beyond Meat - The Future of Protein™ Compare the nutrition facts on their site between it and a cow flesh burger.

The one-sidedness is humans saying that they are the only ones deserving of life. It's justifiable to kill in self-defense. I would kill an animal (or a human) to save someone's (or my own) life, but if there was a way to defend myself or someone else without killing, then I would do that. If a human intentionally kills another human (not by accident or in self-defense), I think the death penalty is not out of line.

Sure, why not have a dog as a loving companion, to treat nicely? Is there anything wrong with living beings enjoying each others' company and living symbiotically?

I will agree that disposing of a dog once they get bored with it is wrong. A pet is a lifetime commitment and one needs to commit to the responsibility before obtaining one.

True, owning dogs used to be for securing property or hunting. Animals have been exploited for millennia. It doesn't make it right. Animals should be seen for their intrinsic value, not just as objects that serve man.

So what? They are still deserving of a happy life. That's such a psychopathic way of thinking.

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They are wrong. They slaughter dogs that could be in loving families and bringing joy as a family pet, and it illustrates how hypocritical it is for people in the USA to see animals like cows, pigs, and chickens as food and not dogs and cats. People in this country claim that cows, pigs, and chickens are "food animals" while dog and cats are "pets". But then some Asian countries think dogs and cats are "food animals".

People in the USA will even protest the Yulin dog market, and then they'll go eat a burger, which is total hypocrisy. India generally reveres cows as sacred, so many people in that country will not eat their flesh. But, they are one of the highest consumers of dairy products, and as a result are one of the larger exporters of beef because they send away their cows, which all get slaughtered, so they end up doing what they are trying to avoid.

Right, so if a dog barks, kill it? How nice. Maybe if people were responsible with their pets, stray animals wouldn't be a problem. Maybe people should stop buying from breeders so much and not letting their dogs have litters of puppies just because they think it's cute, so homeless animals can be taken off the streets and put into homes or centers where they can be cared for.

The hypocrisy and lack of empathy shown by the human race is astounding. It makes me ashamed to be part of it. And it hasn't only included animals! Look at how Africans were abducted and kept as slaves for hundreds of years. Look at how thousands of people were put in gas chambers during World War II because of their religion. I could go on with more examples.

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being a lad in the southern parts of africa, the law of the bush said that if a dog has tasted human flesh - it should be put down immediately, forget one dog bite, stray pack dogs there will drag your fighting semi alive carcass to their den and finish you off.

They are not for "aww" such a cute dog - it could be provided with a loving life. - umm, no. its a wild carnivore that has tasted human blood, it will come back for more - put it (them) down was the only solution.


in the case above, if I saw a dog in my neighborhood going after human flesh, its going down in a heartbeat. Its a real moneypit for the owner of such animal as these lawsuits can really bankrupt a person specially if there is death involved due to a pet. (dog, cat, snake etc.)

A loving dog for one person does not mean its a loving dog for everyone. - it may bite a stranger. Best keep it in check and in your property.

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I believe we talked about my immediate neighbors housing breeder dogs (they told me around $3000 EACH). All they do is bark incessently driving me slowly crazy. It is at the point I am planning on selling the house over the 'problem'.

As I wrote, there is justification in killing an animal if one's life is in immediate danger and there is no other way to protect oneself. But some people seem to want to just take the easy way out and dispose of an animal like it's an object because they don't want to use their mind to think of a better solution.

It's a shame that through the thoughtlessness and carelessness of humans, so many dogs (which have been domesticated and altered through millennia) are abandoned and survive the only way they know--on scraps or eating/attacking whatever moves. With the way humans treat them, it is no wonder they become aggressive towards them, as they see them as an enemy and potential food source.

Rightly so, if someone's dog attacks or kills a human, the one responsible for the dog's care should be liable. I would also sue. Yes, pets should be kept within one's own property.

Animals have so much potential to be loving companions (not all make good pets, many are best left in the wild), and it's a shame when instead of nurturing these good qualities, a person decides to neglect or treat an animal poorly. In all, it's not really the fault of the animal in these situations. Animals don't have the same level of accountability as do humans. It's in fact incredible how much a once-vicious dog can adjust once they're shown love and stability. Some are probably too far gone to rehabilitate. Once again, it's not the dog's fault, so I think we should show as much kindness as is practical instead of jumping the gun and condemning "nuisance animals" too quickly.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I both preach and practice compassion. I believe in being merciful, and amplifying the good in the world. Some people say they believe in these things, but don't actually practice them. And then some are selfish and don't care about anyone but themselves and their close friends and family. That's all fine for them until the tables are turned.

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I ask every rabbit and chicken i kill to eat if they want to die, and invariably the answer is yes.
They live a splendid life until ending up in the freezer. Warmth, food, comfort, but they always want more, and that more is conversion into delicious food.

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I know that cannot possibly be true. It seems your ability for empathy is broken and you are beyond feeling.

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Clearly you do not keep food animals.

Would do you good to have a more realistic relationship with the way the world works frankly.

What do you think is in that dog food you are feeding a dog? They are carnivores after all

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Dogs that randomly attack people are not pets in my definition. There is a lot to be said for people that own them and allow this to occur.

Some serious action might occur if you went before a council in your area with a few other people that have simular concerns.

Public safety should be high on the list in any area. A dog or dogs that will attack grown ups can easily kill children. Pit bulls account for a full 75 percent of serious biting issues even resulting in death on occasion. Yet are small percentagewise of the specis in numbers.

It is not logical to defend the breed. People do though without really understanding the issue.

A neighborhood dog came on our property and bit my sister a very long time ago. Our dad paid the owner a visit. The dog showed up on our property again. Dad went to the owner again and physically really beat him

Dad was a very experienced soldier in the second world war. This occurred only shortly after he got back. There was never another incident of dad doing anything of this nature for the remainder of his life. I suspect the owner of that dog somehow inflamed the situation. As dad was not violent person by basic nature. Or more likely the owner did not respond to the first visit properly.

The dog was never seen again. Those where different days though.