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Old 12-08-2018, 09:04 PM
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Water softener for house; what type or brand?

I just tore down my dishwasher, looks like hardwater/calcium scale build-up is eating it up. Obviously I need a water softener. I have looked at salt-free designs as well as the standard water softeners that use salt. I'm not too crazy about using salt because your skin abosrbs it when you take a shower.

Any ideas as to good reliable water softener brand that doesn't use salt?
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Old 12-08-2018, 10:00 PM
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Why no salt?
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Old 12-08-2018, 10:41 PM
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Don't waste your time with the salt-less designs. If you want the water softened, the ion-exchange (salt) softeners are the only way to go.

Does your house have hookups for a water softener already? If not, are you handy enough with plumbing to add in the connection? If not, count on paying a plumber big bucks to add in the hookup.

If you're on municipal water, contact your supplier for a hardness rating. Hardness can be rated in grains per gallon or ppm. How hard your water is and how many people live in your house dictates how much capacity you need in a softener. Harder water + more people = bigger softener.

If the dishwasher is the only place you're seeing scaling, make sure your water heater is turned up to 140˚. If it's running low, the soap won't dissolve and will coat everything inside with a white chalk, especially the strainer in the bottom and the heating element.

Our water here is hard enough to sink your teeth into. My neighborhood is fed from a well, we have water hardness here of 32 grains per gallon (547ppm). A softener is pretty much a requirement unless you like rock formations on any sort of plumbing fixture.
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Question Whole House Water Softener

? What about the reverse osmosis typ ? .

Where I'm at you can close to hammer nails with the tap water, it only occasionally meets Federal specs.
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Where do I look to see if there are hook-ups for a water softener? The hot water heater is in the garage.
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? What about the reverse osmosis typ ? .
In hard water areas, RO filters are *EXTREMELY* expensive to operate, very wasteful with water, and suffer a very short membrane life. Around here, a typical undercounter style will only last about a month without a softener to take out some of the mineral content first.

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Where do I look to see if there are hook-ups for a water softener? The hot water heater is in the garage.
If you have hookups for a softener, you'll have a loop of pipe sticking out of the wall or a set of 2 or 3 valves with a drain. It may look as though someone was going to connect a sink and "forgot".

If your water heater is in the garage, that's a good indication that the water main enters there somewhere. Typically houses plumbed for softeners have the outside sill faucets separated off from the soft water supply.
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I used the potassium tablets in our softener for years and they work great. More expensive but a bag lasts about 1.5-2 mos regenerating about twice a week. One thing I found-don't fill the brine tank full with "salt" only put in one bag max. It will eventually cake and need to be taken apart and cleaned. Also setting the water level in the brine tank to max helps. Since we moved and on city water don't need a softener but it doesn't taste like well water-I miss how our well water tasted.
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Thanx for all the info ! .

Softened water has many benefits ~ tastes better, less soap in the washing machine, less stains in sinks / toilets, less water spots on your car when you wash it, on and on.....


I wish I could afford a whole house softener system .

Maybe one of these days .
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Two things I have found over the years....

Always keep about 80 pounds of salt in reserve. You don't want to check your salt levels late at night and find you need to buy more.

Choose who you buy your system from not only on price but also on their reputation for service. Someday you will need it and most of the stuff you can do yourself. A good service company will give you instructions over the phone on how to reset your system.
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