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t walgamuth · #16 02-12-2019, 11:01 AM

I talked to the service manager about the recall work. He says they have replaced about five different parts and it keeps throwing codes. I did not tell him that it has had an engine light on ever since I bought it....(he did not ask).

I still have the new Mercedes CLK to drive so I am not anxious to get it all resolved. I would like my car back though. It drives better than the Benz.

barry12345 · #17 02-12-2019, 04:20 PM

Beyond a certain point Volkswagon has true field experts on various systems on their cars. They may be waiting for one. I once purchased a company car one of them used. These guys are true specialists in their given areas of knowledge.

I know I have mentioned their individual for a large regional area here on their electronic and electrical systems has retired here. It is a recent retirement in the last year or so I was told as well. I want to talk to him if he will.

It is not urgent I am just curious. The older but in many ways not older diesel jetta has what seems like a very simple problem of not much real consequence. For example no code is involved.

If the car was not in such good overall condition I would just ignore it. Yet something tells me as simple as the issue appears. There is a strong probability in my mind. Some real input by him may be better waiting for if possible before I get around to it. It is strange enough it may be if not a common issue. Yet one particular to this brand and model.

Your issue could easily be a fault resulting from the change of the software. When the vehicle was changed over to the required emission standards. Perhaps since the light was on when you purchased it. They could not sell the car from a corporate perspective at the dealer level and wholesaled it. Even if that was in the case a remote possibility in my opinion. They have to fix it now. In the transfer of data something may have been corrupted.

Pour the miles on the loaner. It may take some time for a resolution.

t walgamuth · #18 02-12-2019, 10:49 PM

Yeah, the service manager said as much. The conversion is related to the current problems. The MB does not drive as well as the Porsche but it drives very well. I finally have figured out how to operate the radio....more or less.

barry12345 · #19 02-13-2019, 08:58 PM

Perhaps it is just aging. On the other hand information overloading could be an issue. It takes me some time on occasion to get new to me electronic devices to fully function. This should not be an issue with my background.

For example the wives car radio is out. The output device is potentially shorted.. I know this by the way the radio has failed. Today getting in and identifying the part might be done. It also is nothing new that no part identification numbers will be on the part..

So getting that part as a result then is a whole different story perhaps today as well.. So I called the auto wreckers and had a look on the net for a factory replacement. Yet only radios from two years will work. Even then you should stick to the original model radio that was provided. A result of these cars built in so many plants worldwide. It smells like different wiring harnesses as well. For their cars. At least the model of the radio is identified on the front face.

Many things on newer cars are no longer intuitive. So on acquiring a strange one. Best to take the time to read the owners manual. Otherwise I have found you can own it for a substantial amount of time not even knowing that you have a feature.

For example . The wife arrived home the other night and told me her dash lights were out. I had to use the cars manual just to locate the light intensity control. For a few minutes I thought it did not even have one. It turned out to be part of another multiple function control. She apparently had no problem activating it.

Proving my mental superiority in the process does not get you brownie points. She knew she did it when I mentioned it was okay now with no explanation.

When riding a horse hard with a giraffe beside you and a lion chasing you. Using the cellphone to ask the wife what to do. A mentally superior women would tell you. To just get your drunk ass off the carrousel..

t walgamuth · #20 02-13-2019, 10:14 PM

hah hah hah!

t walgamuth · #21 02-21-2019, 02:30 PM

Just talked to Ralph, the service manager. He says they have changed everything except the ECU, (and the kitchen sink) and it seems good but he is sending someone out to drive it 20 miles to be sure the engine light does not come on again.

He said they have fixed a dozen of them since mine came in and all were very simple.

tyl604 · #22 02-21-2019, 03:20 PM

Sounds like an exercise of throwing parts at it until the right part shows up. Whatever happened to diagnosing the problem first???

My guess is that these beasts are so complicated now, that it might be impossible accurately to diagnose first.

t walgamuth · #23 02-21-2019, 04:27 PM

I dunno.

He said something I did not fully understand but i took it to mean that he at the dealership actually hooked my car up to Porsche's computer and Porsche told him what to change.

tyl604 · #24 02-21-2019, 04:35 PM

Well, when you get it back, it should really purr.

t walgamuth · #25 02-21-2019, 07:19 PM

It purred before but the dash screen said if I didn't take it in after 200 miles I would not be able to restart it. I assume it was all emissions; related to the reprogramming they did.

It ran fine, had loads of power and got great economy.

t walgamuth · #26 02-23-2019, 07:08 AM

So its been a month. I am beginning to have thoughts of asking Porsche to buy it back from me. Wonder if that is a possibility?

sloride · #27 02-23-2019, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

So its been a month. I am beginning to have thoughts of asking Porsche to buy it back from me. Wonder if that is a possibility?

Do you you still have use of the loaner MB? If so I would't be in to big of a hurry to have them buy it back, as long as they cover they cost of typical maintenance required, as they should want their assets kept up to date.

barry12345 · #28 02-23-2019, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

So its been a month. I am beginning to have thoughts of asking Porsche to buy it back from me. Wonder if that is a possibility?

Since corporate warranty. After X times trying to repair an issue. It falls under the lemon law I think. Think it is six times.

All modern cars are very complex. There is a fair sprinkling of the buy backs showing up at local car auctions. The buy back reason is listed on them. I figure if you can live with a problem and the price is right why not.

My guess is some of their issues may be highly intermittent. My son in laws brother had a general motors product with an intermittent they could not catch. Also another son in law as well on a ford product. It burnt before it was found.

t walgamuth · #29 02-23-2019, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by barry12345

Since corporate warranty. After X times trying to repair an issue. It falls under the lemon law I think. Think it is six times.

All modern cars are very complex. There is a fair sprinkling of the buy backs showing up at local car auctions. The buy back reason is listed on them. I figure if you can live with a problem and the price is right why not.

My guess is some of their issues may be highly intermittent. My son in laws brother had a general motors product with an intermittent they could not catch. Also another son in law as well on a ford product. It burnt before it was found.

I don't understand your first three sentences.

Also might be lemon law but I don't think Porsche will let it go that far.

Anyway it won't hurt to ask. It sounds like they have made like six repairs already and it is still saying it will lock itself down.

t walgamuth · #30 02-28-2019, 08:17 AM

So yesterday I drove my loaner over to Peoria and test drove a huge MB nine passenger Gl550 (IIRC), a VW Toureg diesel, an audi Q3 and a diesel sportwagen like I started with. The 550 was huge...not for me. The Q was too small and uninspiring. The jetta had extensive hail damage. I liked the VW toureg pretty well but for the moment I think I will keep my Porsche. The toureg is an unusual color which is much like mb manganese brown with a lovely ivory interior.

They fixed it for the last time (so far) yesterday and test drove it without throwing any codes or lock down threats. They are going to keep it for another week to give it more extensive test driving and in a week or so if all goes well I'll get it back.