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Personal biases only -Go with the subaru or the Kia.
- I have a 2009 Kia van (with the 3.8L) - No trouble in 160k miles. Best automotive decision I've ever made. -the Sorrento EX will be maxxed out with features -Friends and relatives with Nissans all seem to report slightly-higher than average numbers of repairs (transmissions, alternators at 110k miles, stuff like this) Again, my experience only... -My last Subaru was a 2001 Outback, but based on that, and in spite of the headgaskets at 150k, I'd happily give them another try. - finish, build quality and easy-to-work-on won out over every other problem it had (not many)
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I own a 11 Outback w/2.5 and CVT. I have no idea what the complaint is. I test drove all the competitors at the time and the Subaru CVT was the only transmission that delivered a decent driving experience. Early ones do have problems with the lock up torque converter, and there was an extended warranty to cover that. The contemporary Rogue had a conventional transmission and was very unpleasant. That said, the Tribeca had a conventional transmission. It’s also a corporate orphan, so not my choice among your options.
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The Kia usually has their v6. It uses two hydralic chain tensioners. When they fail it usually is new engine time. There was and is a program to get free engines. I doubt up to ten years of age though. A pile of them failed.
I also think the car market is in a mess. Retained values seem to be dropping like a rock. At least in my region. Even the more desirable vehicles are. Just not as bad as the vast majority. Too many people do not seem to care what they pay for a new car. All they are interested in is the monthly payment or lease payment. I see some new car dealers just dumping almost all their trade ins through the auctions. Soon it will probably amount to owners just driving them into the ground first if the trend continues. I have not been to the car auctions in about the last year. I only went once in some time before that. They had about sixty to seventy SUV types of almost all brands running through. I was just going to pick up a truck the son in law purchased the week before. So I did not hang around to see the prices they were bringing. I did think repossessions though as the most likely source of that many. Or end of lease. He paid around three thousand and fees and taxes he had mentioned before I went . I was not expecting very much of a truck and was really surprised how good it was. A dealer trade in. Never ever saw a price that low for what it was at the auctions a couple of years earlier. I do not get the whole picture yet my guess is. Far too many people can only squeeze in a new car payment or lease cost in their budget. If they buy used they have no financial reserves for unpredictable repair issues. At the cost of them today. Plus people that have really questionable credit issues. Can get credit on new cars but not on used perhaps. Remember that 46 percent of the north America population. Cannot raise two hundred dollars quickly without borrowing it. Up from 40 percent a year ago. Plus their judgement might even be impaired or they would not be in that state. So they probably could not determine a good used car from a bad one. Last year for the first time. When driving if I was behind certain brands of new cars and light trucks. I actually felt sorry for their owners. Many brands have gone to the five year warranty on their products this year. . Perhaps a demand by the financial community carrying all the paper they are now. I can see their risk perspective with the residual values falling so fast especially. Last edited by barry12345; 02-28-2019 at 04:26 AM. |
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The biggest concern I would have with the Tribeca would be the lack of parts.
They didn't sell a lot of them, so you would likely be dealership only. But, it can hold a lot, including likely a third row seat, which is a really nice thing. I would look at the last generation of the Pathfinder before the CVT, if that's a possibility. One thing I neglected to consider with my last car purchase (2013 MT Outback) is the capacity of what can actually be carried on the roof. Not the roof rack, but the actual roof. On the 2013 Outback, it's NOTHING. Everything needs to be on the rack. Since the cross bars that come with the car are curved, it requires a basket/rack on top or a clamshell carrier bolted to the bars.
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pathfinder CVT. a very peaky engine and a numb transmission, nissan also provides a nice tow hitch on that thing.
as soon as you set off with a tow load and have a transmission temp gauge, you can be amazed by it when is consistently reaching for the 240F mark just in city. I think the last iteration of them have a total of 4 heat exchangers for that transmission. It still acts up. I owned a 13 altima with CVT, in its 70,000 mile life the transmission was replaced 3 times by Nissan. Every failure was weird. one was a torque converter clutch locked on one was a failure of drive (broken variator) one was slippage when passing on highway (bad oil pump and eventually toasted variator). The mechanics at the dealers are champs now, they swap them out in 4 hours tops.
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su b's have timing belt hard to service.Find a chain drive motor
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Subaru Forester has had a chain since 2011. Outback since 2012.
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