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oldsinner111 03-06-2019 01:54 PM

Type 2 anyone?
 
Found out some my problems,type 2 diabetic. Been studying can be reversed,by a paleo diet,no starches,or sugars. Anyone done this?

martureo 03-06-2019 02:24 PM

No. It can't be reversed. The damage has been done already.

You need to adjust your diet and activity to what your body is capable of now. Paleo might help, but so will exercise.

oldsinner111 03-06-2019 03:17 PM

yes it says 30 minutes a day,my stationary bike I'll use

jplinville 03-08-2019 01:02 PM

Type 2 here...recently began Keto diet and since January 14th, have been able to reduce my night time insulin units from 87 to 45, and will continue to drop them until I see I no longer need to. Seriously, read up on the Keto diet, add fish oil to your daily regimen, about 4 grams each morning, and start on the diet. You'll lose weight, and wean yourself off of sugar and carbs. Stay under 25 grams of carbs a day, eat plenty of low carb fresh vegetables, and meat...meat is carb free.

oldsinner111 03-08-2019 02:04 PM

yes going keto too.supposed to take pills for this twice a day.everyone in my family had legs removed.

if6was9 03-08-2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by oldsinner111 (Post 3897143)
Found out some my problems,type 2 diabetic. Been studying can be reversed,by a paleo diet,no starches,or sugars. Anyone done this?

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Originally Posted by martureo (Post 3897153)
No. It can't be reversed. The damage has been done already.

You need to adjust your diet and activity to what your body is capable of now. Paleo might help, but so will exercise.

"
According to Diabetes Care, remission can take different forms:
  • Partial remission: When a person has had a blood glucose level lower than that of a person with diabetes for at least 1 year without any diabetes medication.
  • Complete remission: When the blood glucose level returns to normal, not simply pre-diabetic levels, for at least 1 year without any medications.
  • Prolonged remission: When complete remission lasts for at least 5 years."
"Reversed" is the question and yes it can be, the medical term for a reversal of the physiological conditions that define Type 2 is remission, medically there is no "cure".


Two years into a comprehensive life style redirection of a 30 year old family member, completely off Metformin which was at one point 1500 mg daily.



Diet is most important, vegetables and very lean proteins, lots of fish, extremely low calorie no carb tofu/white yam pasta. Five smaller meals a day, at least an hour a day of vigorous walking or some other calorie burning cardio, low impact at first i.e. swimming.



It doesn't have to be the end of the world but it's going to require stopping doing the stuff that got you there at the very least if you want to stop the progression of the disease.


Meditation, tai chi, therapy all help redirecting a mind set to more disciplined stronger will that is needed to stick with the program long term.


Good luck

Mxfrank 03-08-2019 03:31 PM

If you consume fewer sugars and starches you may eventually be within the limits of your natural insulin production/utilization. That's not a cure, and you will have to decide if you can live with such a diet long term. I was able to keep my glucose level under 100 for years, but it's progressing now. Nothing I can do to turn back the clock.

Zulfiqar 03-08-2019 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oldsinner111 (Post 3897143)
Found out some my problems,type 2 diabetic. Been studying can be reversed,by a paleo diet,no starches,or sugars. Anyone done this?

cant be helped, Im also diabetic type 2 (makes it sound like a VW microbus) - I have a real stupid kind, its like my body yoyos the amount of insulin on whims.

adjust your food type and exercise or work out the energy you consume as food. Forget any liquid calories like sugar drinks or beers etc. The pills you have will most probably be metformin hydrochloride which help in getting the glucose energy processed and lowering your glycated heamoglobin slowly.

oldsinner111 03-09-2019 06:14 AM

maybe fry food in marijuana oil, smile.

jplinville 03-09-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by oldsinner111 (Post 3897981)
yes going keto too.supposed to take pills for this twice a day.everyone in my family had legs removed.

I'm on pills twice a day, on top of the nighttime insulin shots. The pills will likely always be there for me. My glucose was uncontrolled for too long...averaging in the 500-600 range for well over 2 years. Much of it was my fault, only a small amount can be blamed on something out of my control. I accept my responsibility in it.

I take Invokamet...it's a combination of Invokana (yes, we know the risks) and Metformin. Prior to this, I was taking Metformin and Glipzide, which caused dangerous drops in the glucose, to the point I was down in the 40s more than a couple times. The Invokamet kept things steady, and the Levemir, a time release insulin, helped keep it where it needed to be. It took over a year to bring it up to 87 units a night...and now that I've found the right diet that seems to work for me, I'm able to control my glucose by bringing it back down in dosage, as needed...every 5-7 days. So long as my glucose stays under 110 in the morning after a week of the new dose, I'm good. Lately, it's been in the upper 70's, meaning it's time to drop it again.

Only you can get diabetes under control. It takes education, determination, and the willingness to be the master of your own body. The docs can help with some meds to act as tools, but the diet has got to be right...and there doesn't seem to be a one size fits all diet, but Keto is pretty damned close. Low sugar, low carbs, no breads, no pastas, ease up on the fruits, stay away from vegetables that grow under the dirt line, etc. Those are the most basic of tenants that the Keto diet is. If you have a smart phone, down load Carb Manager ap...and log your current weight, goal weight, and most importantly, your meals. There are macros you should meet everyday, like protein grams, fat grams, and carbs. If you go over on your proteins, they turn to glucose. If you go over on your fats, it causes a fatty liver, which isn't good. If you're in Ketosis, your body begins expelling glucose through your liver, and with the help of certain medications, into your urine stream, leaving your body.

If I hadn't have tried this myself, I wouldn't believe it...but this is what is working for me. YMMV

oldsinner111 03-09-2019 09:33 AM

what can cause a diabetic coma?or do we get them? seems like a good way to go.

oldsinner111 03-09-2019 11:39 AM

a1c was 7.3, glucose was 206. Read up after one year a1c below 5.6 you are in remission

jplinville 03-09-2019 01:24 PM

I'm at 5.7, as of yesterday's appointment. It was up to 14 at one time. Getting your glucose up over 600 will surely get you close to a diabetic coma...but I recommend against it as a way out, because they'll likely bring you back, and stick your survivor with a ton of bills.


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