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oldsinner111 03-23-2019 09:44 AM

Parkland survivor suicide
 
Shame,she had bad ptsd,and no one helped.
I told families today, they should unite with a legal team and sue, the NRA for bribing Republican party. Any common sense gun law they shoot down.
There needs to be free mental healthcare for those that can't afford. Also a computer base that bans them from weapons. Weapons, and magazines ban are not the answer, like driver's who are drunk. We don't ban vehicles.

rocky raccoon 03-23-2019 09:59 AM

According to Martureo, she didn't want to die when she committed suicide.

barry12345 03-23-2019 11:00 AM

Mental health care is inclusive with our universal health care system in Canada. I do have issues with the effectiveness of it. For example it would not surprise me if the rates per thousand of suicides might be similar to those in America. Especially of those with the ptsd factor.

This post traumatic stress disorder is getting all too common. It seems those inflicted have really serious issues living with it. I have had no reason to think if the common accepted description of it is really the best one.

A persistent state of remaining in semi shock is kind of what I see. That should wear off but does not seem to. So the brain shifts to a kind of limp mode. It is known that excess trauma divides the brain functions between hemispheres. Where they no longer connect properly as well.

Once established it seems to be at least semi permanent. I have never sat down and extensively talked with any grown person that seems to have it. They seem too fragile to attempt it. It has to be tough on any family dealing with a member with it needless to say.

There may be a genetic test to be developed that indicates those that may be far more likely to develop it under a lot of stress someday. Today for example there is a blood test to indicate either the presence of bi polar or perhaps even the likelihood of developing it.

oldsinner111 03-23-2019 11:07 AM

I have read certain experince's can stay in the brain.Like a chip, that has burn in memory

HuskyMan 03-23-2019 12:42 PM

The answer to the so-called "gun problem" is simple.

First idea:

Private ownerhsip of guns is banned. This will require the police to go door-to-door to systematically search each and every home, business and apartment to pick up ALL guns. Anyone caught with a gun will be shot at sun down.

Since you won't have any guns, you will have to soley rely upon the police for your personal security.

Second idea:

Immediately after then President Ronald Reagan and James Brady were shot, congress passed bills to make certain public areas "gun free" zones. Public schools were and still are on the list of "gun free" zones.

Gun crimes in these so-called "gun free" zones have skyrocketed since the bill was passed. Obviously, if a bad guy with a gun wants to kill a lot of people, he'll automatically go to a place where he KNOWS he will meet absolutely NO resistence. Thank you congress for giving us "gun free" zones!!

Arm the teachers and principals with loaded guns and the playing field is dramatically leveled. Next time some jack ass walks into a school trying to shoot up the place, ARMED teachers will send him to his maker.......

Justice is served.....

blt 03-23-2019 12:56 PM

You posted this in the wrong forum...

oldsinner111 03-23-2019 01:10 PM

no need to ban them,just make back ground checks,better. Look for felon's,mental unstable, veterans with PTSD. Stop Flea Market sale's, I've seen AKs. Yard sales,

barry12345 03-23-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by oldsinner111 (Post 3902678)
I have read certain experince's can stay in the brain.Like a chip, that has burn in memory



Well the damage at least seems to be persistent. So it is not unreasonable the cause of the damage also remains. Or the cause was so powerful it made some permanent changes.

When I read general Pattons war as he knew it. The book contained a running account of the casualty statistics. The others listed beyond killed or wounded where a substantial number.

Since he tried to stay attacking as much as he could. May have been mentally far too much for many of his troops. Plus he continually pushed hard in atrocious weather. He had a couple of theories that produced results but at substantial cost to the troops under his command.

Some of the troops developed a slogan. Patton was know as the blood and guts general. His guts and your blood. That was not in the book.

if6was9 03-23-2019 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barry12345 (Post 3902676)
Mental health care is inclusive with our universal health care system in Canada. I do have issues with the effectiveness of it. For example it would not surprise me if the rates per thousand of suicides might be similar to those in America. Especially of those with the ptsd factor.

This post traumatic stress disorder is getting all too common. It seems those inflicted have really serious issues living with it. I have had no reason to think if the common accepted description of it is really the best one.

A persistent state of remaining in semi shock is kind of what I see. That should wear off but does not seem to. So the brain shifts to a kind of limp mode. It is known that excess trauma divides the brain functions between hemispheres. Where they no longer connect properly as well.

Once established it seems to be at least semi permanent. I have never sat down and extensively talked with any grown person that seems to have it. They seem too fragile to attempt it. It has to be tough on any family dealing with a member with it needless to say.

There may be a genetic test to be developed that indicates those that may be far more likely to develop it under a lot of stress someday. Today for example there is a blood test to indicate either the presence of bi polar or perhaps even the likelihood of developing it.

Any chance you've got some link to this info? I work in the field and haven't heard of this, thanks

oldsinner111 03-23-2019 02:04 PM

CT scans have shown changes in brains

cmac2012 03-23-2019 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky raccoon (Post 3902664)
According to Martureo, she didn't want to die when she committed suicide.

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davidmash 03-23-2019 11:31 PM

Trauma can stay with a person for ever. My father still has occasional nightmares about his experience. There are certain sounds, smells .. etc that can trigger him. Nothing dramatic but I can see a change in mood and demeanor.

oldsinner111 03-24-2019 07:00 AM

Now I don't have PTSD, but borderline bi polar, It's overwhelming to fight a depressive episode. I have felt the urge to take my shotgun, and stand in my creek, and pull trigger with my toe, and it in my mouth many times.

t walgamuth 03-24-2019 09:38 AM

It's always better for your loved ones if you stick around. Good job so far!

oldsinner111 03-24-2019 09:47 AM

T I have a grandson to finish raising 4th grade
Raised two others still with me


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