https://kutv.com/news/local/person-dies-in-rollover-crash-on-southbound-i-15-in-iron-county

Two people fall in love and the right swingers pretend to be outraged.

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1979 Black on Black, 300CD (sold), 1990 Black 300SE, Silver 1989 Volvo 780, 1988 300CE (vanished by the hands of a girlfriend), 1992 300CE (Rescue).

What

lol. Must have had two windows open...And yes wear your seatbelts and have both hands on the steering wheel.

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1979 Black on Black, 300CD (sold), 1990 Black 300SE, Silver 1989 Volvo 780, 1988 300CE (vanished by the hands of a girlfriend), 1992 300CE (Rescue).

And drive a better car...

Said the female, brain dead, equivalent to Joe Biden. How's your "district" doin' lately, San Fran Nan? It would appear that way too many people are leaving a lot more than their "heart in San Francisco".......

I've been working with crashed vehicles since the 1960's and the fact that many can't be bothered to simply buckle up is astounding .

"I'd rather be thrown clear" means you don't have the basic reasoning skills of a 5 year old ~ when you're ejected from a vehicle it almost always follows and runs or rolls over you .

The rest of the incoherent babble I'll have to study upon to see if it makes any sense .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

My Dad taught Navy men to drive large vehicle's as civil service worker. He installed seat belts on his 62 mercury S65, before mandated. Also had a Mark 4 air condition. Big 390 4 barrel those were the days

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Uh, oh ~ here we go talking about big American cars of days gone by .

Although I prefer to drive small cars I loved riding in those old cars, be they '54 Chevies or cushy land yachts ~ they were simply glorious if expen$ive to feed .

I had '63, '64 & '65 Lincolns, MASSIVE machines that were so well built I loved them .

The '65 was the best of the bunch .

I foolishly allowed a 1959 Cadillac convertible in white W/ black leather interior and every possible option to be towed away and impounded by L.A.P.D. .

Plus of course many more as did most of the over 60 crowd here .

all of them were death traps make no mistake .

Nevertheless the inherent danger could be mitigated by simply wearing the seat belt properly adjusted .

I learned this when I fell asleep in my 1965 Chevy Malibu four door base sedan and when the road gently curved left, I went strait, jumped the curb at 40 MPH or so and hit a light standard, instead of breaking off as they now do (this was in the 1970's) the light standard went between the InLine 6 cylinder engine and the right front wheel not stopping until it embedded itself in the firewall, severely denting it .

I was wearing the factory lap belt and still hit the center of the steering wheel so hard I cracked my breastbone (or whatever they call it) and turned it black, the bruise remained for several months and I couldn't take a deep breath for close to a year (no health insurance back then) .

I also held onto the two spoke steering wheel so tightly I bent both sides of it back until my knuckles hit the steering column and split the skin across all of them .

I'm quite sure I'd be dead if not for that seat belt, properly positioned low on my hips and not loose .

I'm not allowed to post photos else I'd find a few of what occurs when you're too hip to fasten the seat belt and post5 them to drive home the reality of it all .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Just Darwin culling the herd. The benefits of seat belts is not a well guarded secret. If you do not know that they will save your life in a n accident then you will get whats coming to you. I am glad no one else was hurt.

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2014 C250 21,XXX my new DD ** 2013 GLK 350 18,000 Wife's new DD**

- With out god, life is everything.
- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

When I was a stripling, seat belts (lap belts only, of course) were saved for special occasions, such as road trips in excess of 100 miles...

My father once owned a 1964 Imperial Crown Coupe, built at a time when the Imperial was a separate line from other full-size Chrysler products, and not a content-enhanced New Yorker, which was the case post-1966. The '64 was an absolute Sherman Tank of a car, built body-on-frame to a much more substantial structural standard than contemporary Cadillacs and Lincolns. Looking underneath the vehicle revealed a frame and related structures that would have looked right at home underneath a 3/4 ton pickup truck. One day in 1971, my father had parked this car curbside at a restaurant. Suddenly, a 1963 Chevy Impala sedan comes out of nowhere and smashes into the back end of the Imperial. The occupants of the Chevy were a husband and wife who were engaged in a fight at the time, thus the accident. Enraged, hubby backs the Impala up and rams the Imperial again. Twice. The Impala finally dies, the police drop by, etc. The Impala left the scene by wrecker, the Imperial started on the first try and was driven home without further incident. Damage was limited to a battered rear bumper and interestingly rippled rear quarter panel. Oh, um, and a taillight was broken.

Imperials of this era were prized contestants on the demolition derby circuit.

A twin of the Imperial discussed above. Not a car to play chicken with in your Honda Fit:

Thanx P.C.;

You're dead right that many older MoPars were built to much higher and more exacting standards of engineering than the always more popular GM & Ford products .

My self, I love the 'A' body MoPars because they're carefully designed to be good drivers and out last other brands as well as cheaper to operate so on and so forth blah blah blah .

So, you ask 'if they're so goldurned great, why don't YOU own any Nate ?' .

Good question .

Because like most, I buy chiefly on what I see and Chrysler Corp. is always 'different' when it comes to styling .

Aittle big too different for me, a sad thing because having worked on, with and driven many miles in the, one of my pipe dream cars would be a 1964 Plymouth Barracuda with the brakes and suspension (torsion bars, remember) from a 'A' body station wagon powered by a carefully built cast iron 225 slant 6 "leaning tower of power" engine ~ it'd be a great road car as well as pleasant to drive and park in town, comfy and much quicker (different than faster) than most realize .

As far as the tank like Imperials, they've been banned from demolition derbies for decades now because the entire front body was welded, not bolted together making them *perfect* to use as forward motion battering rams .

I'm enjoying the stories here, please keep them coming .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

My very first car I drove after moving to the US back in the nineties was a 1964 Chrysler New Yorker Wagon. What a car that was.

Around 2002 I was working on the introduction campaign for the new Audi A8, they flew in two prototypes with german security (off duty German cops) and a small team of Audi engineers. The Germans were stunned when they saw front seat passengers having their feet on the dash, the damage that could do if the airbag goes off to your face and legs horrified them. Beside it being rude, I tell every passenger who dares to do so, the horror facing them when getting into a fender bender.

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1979 Black on Black, 300CD (sold), 1990 Black 300SE, Silver 1989 Volvo 780, 1988 300CE (vanished by the hands of a girlfriend), 1992 300CE (Rescue).

Oh yes ~ once you've seen the resulting carnage you'll never allow that again .

A few years back T.T.A.C. ran an article about this and the lead photo was the mangled & chopped off toes of some Woman who'd had her feet on the dash when the collision occurred ~ instead of being grateful to learn how bad an idea this is, the readers all cried like babies to have the article taken down .

Work with salvage vehicles and you'll soon get an idea of just how bad things get get .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better