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Old 02-04-2020, 11:22 AM
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I have a video CNN news coverage taken on April 19, 1995 showing the OKC bomb squad evacuating the Murrah building so that a second bomb could be diffused. I'm in the process of lining up news coverage from all four local television stations videotaped that day. When I get it in my hot little hands, just provide your mailing location and I'll send you documented copies of all of it. There is no denying the second and third bombs.

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Old 02-04-2020, 12:01 PM
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Interesting observation. I recently read a book wherein the author talks about how interest declines as time marches on. Witnesses die off, the media stops talking about the OKC bombing, etc. etc. Here, in 2020, no one really cares.

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Old 02-04-2020, 12:04 PM
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You keep saying "cow poop bomb."

Why?

Ammonium Nitrate is manufactured from Ammonia and Nitric acid in a chemical plant. It has nothing to do with cow or their poo.


Ammonium Nitrate combined with Fuel creates an ANFO or Ammonium Nitrate Fuel Oil explosive.
The term "cow poop" evidences a subconscious self-evaluation of a bunch of bullcrap...
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This is your fault, for waiting a quarter-century to produce the smoking gun...

It is a weird set of circumstances. I am close friends with one of the best known investigative reporters concerning the OKC bombing. I believe he still has the video tapes but I have to contact him to make sure. He had four televisions tuned to the local four major news networks that day and VHS tape recorders connected to all four televisions recording the news coverage throughout the day.

Within 24 hours, all four local as well as national news began changing their stories. And they say there aren't any conspiracies?
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Old 02-04-2020, 04:06 PM
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Yes they are two different things. The inert bomb that was discovered was a real event. The two bombs you are discussing are not real events. They did not exist. They were never discovered. The Fed never reported it. This is figment of Husky's and your imagination. The link which you posted says it is not real and never happened. That is why the heading under which you found the comment is titled "Conspiracy Theories".

Two federal agencies never reported a second bomb. People believe it because they want to. It has nothing to do with the federal agencies saying it because it never happened. Hence the "Conspiracy title".
Except that it is not my opinion it is something I read here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
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Old 02-04-2020, 04:27 PM
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Except that it is not my opinion it is something I read here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
I never said it was your opinion. I said you did not read the link because the heading where you got the info was labeled conspiracy in other words it never happened. It's not real. It's fake.
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It is a weird set of circumstances. I am close friends with one of the best known investigative reporters concerning the OKC bombing. I believe he still has the video tapes but I have to contact him to make sure. He had four televisions tuned to the local four major news networks that day and VHS tape recorders connected to all four televisions recording the news coverage throughout the day.

Within 24 hours, all four local as well as national news began changing their stories. And they say there aren't any conspiracies?
Do you recognize this story?

https://nypost.com/2013/04/15/authorities-id-person-of-interest-as-saudi-national-in-marathon-bombings-under-guard-at-boston-hospital/

CNN, FOX, The Blaze, CBS and other outlets repeated this claim that a Saudi man was being held as a suspect in the bombing.


But it wasn't true. The next day everyone but the New York Post had corrected themselves.

Conspiracy? Or did someone publish information that wasn't corroborated and everyone else ran with it?
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Except that it is not my opinion it is something I read here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

Try this contemporary report. If you want to rant about the irresponsibility of the press, feel free. Just don't repeat the error:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-04-21-ca-57299-story.html

"In reality, though, there was only one bomb. The Associated Press later quoted local police as saying that the others turned out to be equipment stored in the federal building by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms."
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I never said it was your opinion. I said you did not read the link because the heading where you got the info was labeled conspiracy in other words it never happened. It's not real. It's fake.
Just because it was heading was labeled as a conspiracy dose not mean all of the evidence is false.

Why would there be 2 Fed agencies saying there was a 2nd bomb and not saying the found an inert Missile that was thought to be a 2nd bomb?
In the context of the site and title that evidence is being offered to show why some think there is a conspiracy or cover up.

Government agencies covering up stuff they don't want the general population to know is close to normal operating procedure.
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Try this contemporary report. If you want to rant about the irresponsibility of the press, feel free. Just don't repeat the error:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-04-21-ca-57299-story.html

"In reality, though, there was only one bomb. The Associated Press later quoted local police as saying that the others turned out to be equipment stored in the federal building by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms."
How does it become a rant? I am merely showing why some people had doubts about the stock story about the bombing.

Personally I don't care one way or the other.

We do know that the Government plays a shell game with the facts if it can and lets us know what they want.

Read Martuero's post on how the News Media misreported and as yourself if you believe the LA Times simply could have reported what the Government fed to them.
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Isn't the LA Times story sufficiently plausible on its face?
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Old 02-05-2020, 04:08 PM
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Just because it was heading was labeled as a conspiracy dose not mean all of the evidence is false.

Why would there be 2 Fed agencies saying there was a 2nd bomb and not saying the found an inert Missile that was thought to be a 2nd bomb?
In the context of the site and title that evidence is being offered to show why some think there is a conspiracy or cover up.

Government agencies covering up stuff they don't want the general population to know is close to normal operating procedure.
Actually, yea, it kind of does. Especially when you take into account that there is not a single shred of evidence to support the notion that there was more than one explosive device.

I have no idea why there were two agencies saying that ... I have no idea because they never said that..... they never said it because .... wait for it. .... it's a conspiracy. If they did say that you should have no problem finding the actual quote and the person who said/wrote it

Given the sheer volume of people involved in the investigation a cover up like that would be exceedingly difficult to say the least.
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Old 02-06-2020, 04:20 PM
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It seems clear from the Wikipedia The situation report and the memo are not made up evidence.

"Conspiracy theories[edit]

Main article: Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy theories

A variety of conspiracy theories have been proposed about the events surrounding the bombing. Some theories allege that individuals in the government, including President Bill Clinton,[220][221] knew of the impending bombing and intentionally failed to act. Other theories focus on initial reports by local news stations of multiple other unexploded bombs within the building itself as evidence of remnants of a controlled demolition; following the attack, search and rescue operations at the site were delayed until the area had been declared safe by the Oklahoma City bomb squad and federal authorities.[222] According to both a situation report[223] compiled by the Federal Emergency Management Agency and a memo[224] issued by the United States Atlantic Command the day following the attack, a second bomb located within the building was disarmed while a third was evacuated. Further theories focus on additional conspirators involved with the bombing.[225] Additional theories claim the bombing was carried out by the government in order to frame the militia movement or to provide the impetus for new antiterrorism legislation while using McVeigh as a scapegoat.[220][221][226][227] Other conspiracy theories suggest that foreign agents, particularly Islamic terrorists but also the Japanese government or German Neo-Nazis, were involved in the bombing.[157][228][229] Experts have disputed the theories and government investigations have been opened at various times to look into the theories."

If you go to the bottom of the Wikipedia there is a works sited page. Look at #233 the situation report and the FEMA Memo #224 and see the documents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

Attached is one of the documents

No mention of Tow Missie or Equipment being mistaken as any Bombs.
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Old 02-06-2020, 04:57 PM
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It seems clear from the Wikipedia The situation report and the memo are not made up evidence.

"Conspiracy theories[edit]

Main article: Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy theories

A variety of conspiracy theories have been proposed about the events surrounding the bombing. Some theories allege that individuals in the government, including President Bill Clinton,[220][221] knew of the impending bombing and intentionally failed to act. Other theories focus on initial reports by local news stations of multiple other unexploded bombs within the building itself as evidence of remnants of a controlled demolition; following the attack, search and rescue operations at the site were delayed until the area had been declared safe by the Oklahoma City bomb squad and federal authorities.[222] According to both a situation report[223] compiled by the Federal Emergency Management Agency and a memo[224] issued by the United States Atlantic Command the day following the attack, a second bomb located within the building was disarmed while a third was evacuated. Further theories focus on additional conspirators involved with the bombing.[225] Additional theories claim the bombing was carried out by the government in order to frame the militia movement or to provide the impetus for new antiterrorism legislation while using McVeigh as a scapegoat.[220][221][226][227] Other conspiracy theories suggest that foreign agents, particularly Islamic terrorists but also the Japanese government or German Neo-Nazis, were involved in the bombing.[157][228][229] Experts have disputed the theories and government investigations have been opened at various times to look into the theories."

If you go to the bottom of the Wikipedia there is a works sited page. Look at #233 the situation report and the FEMA Memo #224 and see the documents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

Attached is one of the documents

No mention of Tow Missie or Equipment being mistaken as any Bombs.
Read the first line under the bolded word Situation.

They are called conspiracies for a reason. There is not a shred of evidence to support them. Do you honestly think you are going to sit down and search the web for a few min and find something the rest of the wold has missed for the past 25 years?

Are you planning on putting the shovel down before you reach China or are you just going to keep going? I am good either way, I just want to know if I have to stock up on supplies.

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