The Tunnel AT The End Of The Light to dishwashers!!

I'm never ceased to be amazed at some folks thought processes here!!

ya gotta tunnel yer inner hipster dufus

We find that our gas dryers last about twice as long as washers. We just bought a whirlpool washer....about 500. It was slightly used with new machine warrenty. I carried it home in the back of the golf wagon. it fit in like a cork with about a foot and a half sticking past the bumper....probably could have been ticketed. I also installed it. ...a lot more work than I imagined.....or was it less? anyway we took it because they could not install it for me for a week.....saved about $100 too.

Appliances are getting like cars. There are good and bad. When my appliance guy delivers a new unit. He usually removes the old.

Many are now changed because the housewife wants a stainless or black appliances. Nothing or very little wrong with them and if not too old and where decent units by brand and model. He then sells them very reasonably with a warranty.

Although it makes him a lot of money. He still suggests staying away from appliances with electronics when possible.

:thumbsup2: Wife dispatched mine, said the jeans, britches and sheets were to stiff. Now for my stuff I use a standable stack line for campers.

I'm not sure where you would find a major appliance that didn't have electronics these days. One thing I would suggest is to use a surge suppressor: refrigerator, dish washer, washing machine and dryer controls can be damaged as easily as any other computer equipment. Some say that the boards "should" have surge protection built-in. No doubt, but there are a lot of appliances with burned out cards sitting in the junkyard. The most common surge protection component is a varistor, which has a finite life. So even if the device was initially protected, you can't assume it will have lifetime protection.


If I was building a house today, I'd want to install a whole house series mode surge suppressor.

Possibly important unless insurance will pay for the damage. We got hit once. It took out several things but not enough to launch a five hundred deductible claim. As it was cottage stuff.


We did have a moderate claim a couple of years back on a break in. I noticed our premium since jumped 500.00 yearly. As a direct result you never know. It almost feels like they financed what they paid out. That would be paranoid though.

Growth w/o end is not possible. When was the last time you took anything to a transfer station? We are burying one hell of a lot of crap every day.

I don't want to advocate for poverty but worship of excess wealth and consumption is not all it's cracked up to be.

It's about major appliances!
 

Don't be ruining a worthwhile appliance thread.

There's 50 miles of worthless, unarable land between my town and Interstate 10. We could be the county's landfill for the next 100 years with no problem. California, Hawaii, the northeastern US, Europe, Japan, and a few other places are different, though.

My county gave up on recycling after Hurricane Michael, because the company that processed the material had their building destroyed by the hurricane, and because the county's broke. It cost the county $150/ton to recycle: $100/ton paid to the processing company, and $50 in lost tipping fee revenue at the county landfill.

I "smuggle" my recyclables into the next county. Doing this, we (two adults) generally only generate two 13-gallon kitchen trash bags of landfill garbage weekly.

We can have economic growth and an increased standard of living through technology advances. Frau Putzer's 4200 pound, 255 h.p., AWD, 2018 SUV gets better MPG than my 1900 pound, 70 h.p. 1976 VW Rabbit did. It also produces a fraction of the emissions, and will last longer. It's also more comfortable and crashworthy.

No way that could be incorporated into the existing service box?

Some Coastal people (I am a Coastal person), don’t really grasp how big our country is. We just drove up from Naples to Orlando, taking an interior route, away fro I75. There is mile upon mile of scrub nothingness less than a hour from the interstate. And there is far more nothingness out West. I have spent time in 40 of our states, either driving through them or visiting for several days.

I’m with the Car Washer on this, we still have plenty of room to grow.

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Cost of the supporting infustructure has grown high to develop new areas. Canada is only slightly populated even in some of the remaining warmer areas.


For the first time. Either the government is providing financial incentives or the cost of living in our Canadian big cities has become too much for new immigrants. So we are starting to see some locally.


In the past some arrived but quickly left for the large cities where there are similar culture groups. The average Canadian can no longer afford a house in places like Toronto. Plus the cost of living is atrocious there.


We also have a lot of open areas. Todays costs of providing all the infustructure for anywhere new possible holds back new towns.